Sh*tty Pastor's Wives

What's right is logical. Controlling the conviction brings an unbalanced platform for decision. Hell, Hitler, and Homosexuals? Have some coffee, tea, or a glass of wine and be part of this with us- because we love you.

The continuation of episode 7. Hugging you!

Charli asks Jenny to dig into a topic that confuses the hell out of her. THIS is a good one... no, a GREAT one. Love you.

Charli has brief sensory moments and Jenny brings drinks to a kids birthday party. How do you lead someone through deconstruction? We talk about these attempts. And revisit the topic of an old "friend". :) ENJOY YOURSELF! MUCH LOVE.

We talk about cutting out half the "competition". We hope you love this listen! We love you!!!

Jenny and I tear apart two articles that make Jenny gag and gasp. Can't wait for you to listen! Can't wait to hear from you!! MUCH LOVE!!

We talk about how they get emotional because they can't answer. We've all experienced one or two, I'm sure. Enjoy!! MUCH LOVE!!

"The farther you get away from it I'm just like- so it's just like simple brainwashing." Farther from 'that life' and farther into reality. We talk about the life that is further in the rearview now. Hitting the ground while re-assessing what we hang on to and what is therapeutic to hang on to or add to what we missed before. This is the first season I didn't have to edit out anything. Also, no bleeps this time! We love you! Welcome back!

Discussing post-church sexuality and shame. How we identify the "science" or ACTUAL logic behind the darkness of exploring sex inside our previous religious beliefs and now; the damper isn't just morality or belief. We go pretty hard in to what religion has left behind for us and where we picked it up- failures and wins. The resistance to commitment post-marriage and church, the resistance to being over-lorded, and the reason the blocks for presentness and owning your own body are gone. We love you! Dig in! See you there!

"The things that we can’t know are the things that we knew and the things that we knew were the things that we couldn’t trust." Also, Charli gets fired from the pulpit.

Sexual betrayal not to be confused with sexual positivity. I love this one. Short BUT sweet &packs a clarifying punch.

The manipulation of asking questions, how church leadership culture is like a f*ck boy, the missing science of loving on mothers, & mental breakdowns. Oh, how we love you so super a trillion. xo

We talk about divorce, talking shit, gaslighting yourself, PROUD NEWS, &being misunderstood. SO MUCH LOVE TO YOU!!

We're BACK! We talk about how even the most well-meaning couple doesn't actually want to live what they preach, the camouflaged shame kink inside of religion, and emotional &spiritual consent. WE LOVE YOU!!! Interact w/us on Twitter or email. xo

WELCOME TO SEASON 2!!!! Why am I washing my face, bible verse porn, perspiration in the form of women, and tone policing the dehumanized. WELCOME BACK WE LOVE YOU!!!! MUSIC: https://uppbeat.io/t/prigida/cosy

We answer another question: How to be a true friend to a pastor's wife? I LOVE THIS ONE!!! ENJOY! LOVE YOU!

We answer this question posted by @OurJrneysMatter (who we love). "How do you learn to have healthy friendships after spending so much time in church culture where all of your friendships are church based and not safe? As in, we are your family, but if you question us, disagree, move, have a major struggle, or fail, we will abandon you." We also give our first shout out Twitter follow recommendation. @bobomonkeyrage (Because he's safe.) WE LOVE ANSWERING QUESTIONS!! ENJOY!! WE LOVE YOU!

We answer our first listener questions and it’s a doozy. Me AND Jenny’s favorite so far!!!

The suspicions confirmed. Conversations meant to continue. Do we even get our own personhood? WE LOVE YOU!!!!!

Are we using christianity, prayer, and the bible like a magical world of spells and rituals?- ISH? ENJOY- LOVE YOU!!

Behind the scenes of Jenny & Charli and us inviting you to be theoretically sitting next to us and how we "LITERALLY" want you to be talking to us. We want you as friends, family, and community by being a part of your healing because you are definitely a part of ours. You mean so much to us and we want to hear, see, and read your voice and your heart. Email us: shtypw@gmail.com Twitter: @shwives or leave a voicemail through the Anchor app. WE LOVE YOU!

I show Jenny an article I found that put fire in my brain. Who's allowed to be angry at church?? (This episode was recorded before both of us heard the heartbreaking and devastating news from Atlanta.) music: https://uppbeat.io/t/fugu-vibes/spatial

This episode is about sex and the virus of marriage books and purity culture. Prepare yourself for a LOT of inappropriate conversation. The end of this episode touches on Charli's history which may be triggering for some. YAY EPISODE 10!!! We love you enjoy! music: https://uppbeat.io/t/richard-smithson/burst

At 27 minutes long this is our longest episode yet. Jenny talks about empathy and burning bridges and Charli gets caught in the twilight of unforeseen confrontation. ENJOY! music: https://uppbeat.io/t/color-parade/eclectic

Yes, we talk about the religious posture toward genders that we both waded through and how Jesus wants you to get your sh*t together. We love you. music: https://uppbeat.io/t/soundroll/forgotten

We talk about 'bad' words and whether or not we're just trying to not be like our parents.

This episode possibly provides a tiny peek into why we have a "thing" against intimidation and religious idiocy. ENJOY! MUCH love. music: https://uppbeat.io/t/prigida/cosy

*TRIGGER WARNING* In this episode we talk about some potentially triggering themes. We talk about the inappropriate power of assumed trust in church leadership. People process uncomfortable situations, abuse, and feeling cornered in different ways. We are in a place where we can yell about it, swear about it, and laugh about it. If that is not where you're at feel free to skip this one. We understand that abuse is serious because we are both survivors of it, but if our unabashed tone won't be helpful for you please skip this episode. Don't bother commenting about us having an insensitive approach to things of this nature because both of us are on a journey to healing and this is just where we're at on it. LOVE YOU. I want to encourage you to take an unashamed tone with anyone who is making YOU feel like your boundaries are being crossed. music:https://uppbeat.io/t/walz/name

Jenny and Charli Discuss the sweat and demons of power trips at church. (This one is Jenny's favorite so far.)

Jenny tells me about her cutting edge youth group and how to never regret that I didn't go to bible school. Enjoy! music: https://uppbeat.io/t/bath-house/means-a-lot

Going in with good intentions and getting trapped with no instincts. Jenny and Charli talk about psychopath leaders herding the cows. Enjoy! music: https://uppbeat.io/t/prigida/cosy

Can you have a life that's separate from church? ...But really, can you? music: https://uppbeat.io/t/color-parade/eclectic