Podcast and Chill with MacG

00:00 Welcome to Podcasts. 00:28 I'm assuming this doesn't end well. 00:33 Guys, I was at a birthday party the other day, man. Oh wow, who am I? A friend of mine. Don't you guys find those speeches like cringe? You know those speeches? Yeah, bro. It's not necessary, man. Fuck you. Bro, it's like a whole hour of just glazing someone. 00:46 I'm only turning 40. I'm not dying, man. Where the fuck? Why have you talked about my childhood? Why? Why have you talked about that? 00:54 Why, bro? 00:55 I have diarrhea. What's wrong with you? 00:58 But birthdays are a clay session. And that's why some of us are okay with not having a party. Or having people wish you happy birthday or sing for you. If everyone forgets, it's fine, man. Because it's a clay session. Bro! It's not such a speech. You being there because this guy was born today is a clay session. 01:16 Nah, fuck out of here, man. 01:17 Nobody gives a shit. Why are you being haters? 01:19 Why are you being haters, man? I'm just saying. 01:20 Get out of here. I don't prefer it. I don't prefer it. Celebrate your birthday. Yeah, you're 45. Some people don't make it. 01:26 Nah. No, ghost lady, celebrate it. I'm just saying the speeches for me, I find them very cringe. Because you have to stand up there and you have to think, oh shit, okay, what good things can I say about the person? Just speak from the heart. 01:36 When you need to think, what good things you need to say about the person, you're not the right person to make a speech. 01:43 Why did they call you to this party? 01:44 You don't even need to write anything down. I remember when one of my friends got married. Damn, we're not friends anymore. But I made a speech. I made a speech, but I didn't even prepare stuff. Yeah, marriage does do that. It separates you, especially the single ones. We go first. You go first, yeah. New group of friends, they're all married. New group of friends, they're all married. And you know what? Couple friends and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then later on, when they see that you've stabilized, they want to be friends again. 02:15 And it's like, oh, man. Oh, you got a girl. That sucks now. Come, Sol. That sucks now. 02:19 Did you have that in your marriage? Did you have to kick out some single girls? 02:22 Yeah, did your parents? Oh, man. Oh, my God. Yes. A lot of niggas were kicked out. For real. 02:29 Because of mommy. 02:29 Yeah, a lot, bro. I was wilding, man. I was crazy wild, man, when I was in my early 20s, bro. I had, like, all my friends, like, Pop Pops, Mojax, Kumba, all those guys, Robbie Collins, we all lived in Malvo, bro, and we were just having the fucking time of our lives, bro. We were proper rock stars, man. Trevor Kumbi. Yeah, Trevor Kumbi was already, like, established, like, you know what I'm saying? We were just, like, bubbling under, like, you know, trying to make a living. So, yeah, man. 02:58 So who did he kick out, Mpo Pops? 03:00 He kicked out the whole guys. Everybody was like, no, no, no, we're not doing this shit. We had a crew called Young Funny, by the way, back in the day. 03:07 Young Funny, baby. 03:09 Oh, shit. So he was like, Mpo Pops, a whole bunch of comics, bro. Young Funny, you know, were out there. The same thing they're doing now at the S.A.P.S. 03:18 Network type of thing. 03:19 That was the initial concept. Yeah, a bunch of comedians who have got a dream to fucking create the craziest content and just fucking rock. And be rock stars, bro. 03:28 Bro, bro, give me a day in the life of like when you were 20 during those crazy days. Because I remember the DJ days, but I've never heard about the comedian. 03:36 Oh, you guys are going to get more bums than the DJs. Yeah, because niggas are funny, bro. Niggas are funny. Niggas are fucking women laugh. There's a thing about it. 03:45 I can't take it, bro. You're so funny. Let me suck your dick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me suck your dick. Yeah, exactly. 03:52 God, are we taking the clothes off? Let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah. 03:56 So, Melville, let me say I come to your house on Friday. What are we doing? What are we doing that weekend? Wait, in Melville? Yeah, during that times. Okay, during those times, I got my backpack. I'm not leaving until Sunday. 04:06 I just broken up. When I moved into Melville, I just broken up with my baby mama, baby mama. Mama and I, like, you know, we agreed mutually that, nah, this shit is not going to work. So I left Northcliffe and I moved into Malville. I moved into a maid's cottage, right? And I was sharing with Robbie Collins, right? And we stayed together in this little maid's cottage. And we were rock stars, like, you know, doing seventh every single night. So when Robbie gets a girl, I would, like, you know, go away, you know, because... You know, we shared the same bedroom. You know what I'm saying? So if he has a girl, I have to leave. And when I have a girl, he had to leave type of vibe. 04:36 And we were just rock stars. We had a drum set in the middle of our bedroom. We took up most of the space, you know. And every night, we never had music or whatever. So we just played the drums. 04:44 Different girls every night? 04:44 Do you know what? At that time, we weren't shit. So we couldn't afford to have different girls every night. Mmm. We couldn't afford to have different girls every night. And students, I mean, like, we're living in Malville. Students, like, nigga, they're expensive, bruh. And nobody wants to take a student back home and then they take off their pumps and your whole room smells like fucking feet. No bad pump smell. I'm a UJ student, bro. Holy shit, bruh. Fucking. 05:08 Yeah, my pump. If you see a fucking student wearing pumps, oh, my God. Wait for those pumps to come off. Oh. And when they take them off, they take a new shape. Oh my gosh. Make the coat back. 05:29 We lived a very crazy lifestyle. But we were not really about the chicks. We were more about creating the funny. Because Robbie and I literally lived like Richard Pryor. We had to do crazy shit for us to have content to talk about on stage. Aren't you? You feel me? 05:48 I don't know, have you ever had Robbie on the show? No, no, no. Robbie Collins, we've never had him on the show, no? No, fuck, you should have Robbie Collins, man. He'll tell you about our crazy vibes. Actually, him and I were the first second-generation comedians to get signed up underneath Trevor Noah, Eugene Koza, Kakisule Dija, and Lois Okola. So we were their official opening acts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Robbie's got a lot of history. He's got a lot of shit to talk about. 06:12 So what if a girl likes both of you guys? What happens then? 06:15 Do you know what? No, we've never had those type of situations. 06:21 Maybe there was a girl just didn't express it. 06:23 You guys should have tried. No, do you know what, guys? Honestly, I think with us comedians, girls feel a lot of comfort around us because we are open-minded to a lot of crazy shit. You know, you can do something dumb in front of a comedian and they wouldn't take it in a way you would say, ah, this girl is quirky or this girl is doing stupid shit. It's over. Except for the feet when Yeah, I know, and the pumps, you know. The feet smell and the nasty feet, those two don't go together. It's not going to work for us, you know. But then we just... We're all about having a good time. We don't give a fuck, really, about girls. 06:55 So comedy wasn't really about... 06:57 hooking up with girls after shows and stuff like that. They want to come to you, but yo, I'm more interested in getting drunk and smoking my weed and having fun with the boys. You know what I'm saying? 07:06 And promoters don't put pressure on you of like, ah, I'll be happy. Because that happens to DJ. 07:11 No, no. 07:12 Promoters are like, can I get you bitches? Can I get you, you know? And when you're like, nah, man, I'm cool. 07:17 I just came here to play. There are fixers. There are fixers. And don't forget, there's a lot of fixers for international artists when they come to South Africa as well. Don't forget that shit. I've seen that a lot of times. Oh, for real? 07:27 They're called fixers. I don't even know what they're called fixers. 07:29 They're called fixers, yeah. It's like pimps, dog. 07:31 Yeah, that sounds like a pimp. 07:33 And it's female most of the times, the fixers, isn't it? 07:36 Yes. 07:37 Chris Brown wasn't the fixer. Chris Brown when you came to South Africa, there was that shit. 07:40 Promoters? Did you see like the 20 girls that were following you? Yeah, but they were fixers. You didn't see when Chris Brown came, there was like 20, and he had a spec. Did you see? He told them, this is my spec. 07:48 This is what the girls I want. And then they'll organize those girls, and those girls will go there. You know what I'm saying? They're just crazy to see Chris Brown. 07:56 Anyway, we are back ladies and gentlemen! 07:58 And we used to have a resident comedian and then, you know, comedians are not loyal. He's now there by all the smoke. 08:21 So we've got a new resident comedian. Please make some noise for Tall Esmo. Tall Esmo. Tall Esmo. Tall Esmo. Tall Esmo. Tall Esmo. You guys ain't pay me enough, man. I want that 12K, bro. 08:35 Why don't you take your job, dog? That's why I would not mind. Give me that job. Give me that job. Give me that motherfucking job. 08:44 Give me that job. What, you need more time for your head to relax? Nah, nigga. 08:48 Give me that job. Give me that job. Give me that job. 08:52 Quips. Nigga, go be you there. I'm going to be me on the show. 08:57 My dog. God. 09:00 My dog. Bro, I haven't heard your side of the story. What did you think about the BU thing? Because you're a part of the Old Smoke. Like, you did a couple of episodes with them. Yeah, I did a couple of episodes with them. 09:08 You're friends with the Old Smoke. The thing is, BU's got this white boy thing going on, man. I don't know what it is, man. I don't know what it is, man. So I think, I just think that scheduling was his problem. That's what I picked up from the whole thing. That scheduling between the podcast producers and himself or his team. I've never seen that motherfucking team, dog. I'm gonna lie. I've had one or two interactions with BU and I've never seen no goddamn team. 09:34 Somebody said there was a Caucasian lady in the mix. I don't know who the Caucasian is. But that lady is fucking it up for the boy. Because he had a platform where he could sell and market himself on any and everything he wants to. Mm-hmm. Look here, you know, for the fact that you're going to speak how much you get paid and complain about what you get paid, right? For me, in the industry, that doesn't look good on you. You feel what I'm saying? Because you know how finicky we are, man. That's not a good look. It's not a good look, yes. Maybe talk under 12,000. Come on, dog. You know what I'm saying? You know how much this fucking relaxer costs? 10:04 That's not a good look. You know what I'm saying? 10:06 You know how many times I have to relax this shit? 10:08 That's 12K, nigga. 10:18 And the industry is small in South Africa. 10:20 Let's be honest. So you're in a good look, man. 10:22 So you get put in this weird little black book, right? Because it's not a consumer black book. It's an industry back-end black book. The consumer will be asking, but where is... Where's Cholice Mo? We want Cholice Mo. They don't give a fuck what you want. If you're on that little black book, ain't nobody fucking with you, bro. It's very difficult unless you change and you show yourself otherwise. You know what I'm saying? But ranting out and going in that direction for me, I don't even know who Entertainment 24 is. 10:53 Who the fuck are those guys, bro? 10:54 I think it was a launch or something. I think that was the launch. That was the launch, yeah? That was the first time seeing it. And it's all over. 11:01 I was like, what's that watermark there? 11:02 Nah, that was much alive. Nah. 11:05 Yeah, man, it's not a good look. Because many people have left the network and there were stories with everyone, you know what I mean? But they just left their thing. And there was no bashing from this side and from their side. That's the way to do it. You can't sell yourself. 11:21 On show, Megs. 11:22 You can't sell. 11:23 Ghost lady, you cannot sell yourself. 11:26 There was a point in time where I wanted to create more love products. More love dildos. More love love pillow. More love. Everything under more loves. Aphrodisiac, sexual, sensual shit. You can't. Why? The channel owes your name. If your show is commissioned, they own you. So if you don't want to do more anything, you need to talk to them first and get their green light. And then they take their major cut. And then you get the rest. 11:53 So now you're on a platform like this. I sell myself every fucking time I come here, bro. 11:57 I'm sure you're going to sell a business to me. 11:59 Damn straight. Hey, hey, hey. That other business, that other business, the traveling one. Someone inboxed me that they got scammed. Jesus. And they were like, please tell Tolismo, I trust you guys on what you sell and whatnot, whatnot, whatnot. I was an influencer, guys. 12:13 Really, really, really. 12:14 My boy. You got lost in Mozambique. I was challenged to you. 12:22 Ha ha ha Now they're paying me, dog. Oh, tell us more. Hey, I'm an influencer. I'm trying. I'm learning influencing. Hey, that's my first influencer. 12:53 Oh, tell us more. 12:55 You think I went to Mozambique for nothing? You're just an influencer, man. 12:58 Influencer. 13:00 Sorry, girl. Sorry, sorry. No, but... 13:02 I think the reality with BU, when I look at that situation, right, I think his ego got bruised because we replaced him so quickly. And he was expecting this. 13:09 He was so happy to take that talk. But it was quick. 13:14 What the quickness? Because I don't know what world he lived in, but he literally believed he was the biggest thing on the network. His team said it. So now there was a leak on the phone call. Yeah, in the call. The white lady, I think, Dudu was in the call. Dudu, grab the mic there. 13:29 And JJ in the call. And his team, the white lady was like, guys, there's different levels because you got to know that BU's the biggest star on this network. 13:36 Oh, because of the Netflix and other stuff. Wow. And I don't know, did you see, he's where he comes from, right? 13:42 He's like, tell me who it was, dog, because I'm going to fire her now. Tell me who said that. 13:47 Yeah, man. Because did you see that? And B, when you met him, he wouldn't speak like that about himself. Nah, he wouldn't. When you meet him. So to him, to be represented by people who speak like that about him. Get rid of those people, bro. 13:57 I don't know if the Netflix show he was talking about is, he's on a Netflix show now, How to Rune Duane. 14:02 Who's Jaffa Snook? Yeah. With the Johnny Bravo hairstyle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 14:08 I can't believe I forgot that guy's name. Meshak Mavuso. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 14:12 So apparently they've got another series coming out. It's called How to Ruin a Career, and he's the main character. 14:22 Don't you just kind of help me. 14:24 No auditions for that one. 14:26 He only pays me 12K. How to fuck a career. What do you mean, dog? 14:34 What do you mean? Coming soon. 14:37 How did that call go, dude? Because you're in the call, man. 14:40 The call was mainly about him missing a few things that we do in the network, you know. Scheduling, that's what I said. It started with that. And so we just wanted to understand why does it happen that way? You know, especially because there's a few things that we communicated earlier in the year that there's a… Like team building, Dawson. 14:58 Nigga wants to get paid for team building, man. Can I tell you something? 15:03 The broadcasters don't give a fuck about your commitments. When you sign a contract with them for any show, there's a thing there, there's a clause there called first call. Dudu, you're a producer, you know what first call is. What is first call? 15:19 So, first call is, I think it's self-explanatory, that if you have signed with us, we somewhat hold the rights to say, if there's something that's happening, we will give you the first call. 15:31 We have dims on you. Yeah, we have dims on you. 15:34 It's self-explanatory. Simple English. Motherfuckers forget. No, but more, you must be careful with Dudu. First call for what? To pegging? What is it? 15:41 Oh, okay. Hold on. Hold on. This is very serious. Because people need to understand this shit. No, man. You know, Kamilo was right up at those niggas. No, Kamilo was right up at you, bro. Kamilo Mabilani said, this niggas like a kid. Every time. 16:04 He doesn't give a fuck what's going on, bro. He just wants to put in his own shit. Where does pegging come in between first calling? 16:12 Let him cook. Let him cook. But you understand, Tutu. So he doesn't have a first call contract here. He's just had an obligation to come to the podcast twice a week or three times a week. But then, now the scheduling, even though you guys said to him three months before there's going to be a team building on that day, Even if a week before the team building, he signs a contract with Netflix that says, first call, forget about your team building, bro. 16:38 He has to be at Netflix first because he's contractually obliged. And he doesn't have the money to fight Netflix lawyers for not pulling up. 16:47 You feel what I'm saying? So that's why nigger gets temperamental and scared. 16:51 But just say that. Exactly. 16:54 That, hey, guys, the kind of situation there, I can't miss it. 16:57 I can't. Yeah. 16:59 Then that makes better sense. We've spoken it out. I've shown you the terms and conditions of my first call. Right? How do we work around it? Solution! McFarlane does that all the time with carte blanche. 17:10 Whenever scheduling... Oh, Mnet's even worse bro. Yeah, yeah. 17:13 Clashing is like, guys, I can't... Or even you, bro. All of us, she's got family commitments. You know, where she's always like... They're always dying then. Yeah, going to the in-laws. The in-laws... How many of them you got left? 17:25 She's only driving to Pumana for a period. You know, she got Makote duties. She got Makote duties, bro. So we work around it. 17:38 You communicate with what we try and work around it. Especially well in advance, like when you can see the time. 17:43 What was a red flag for me was like, okay, the guy wanted to get paid for Road to 2 Million, right? And nobody's getting paid. Apart from me, because you're the roast master, right? 17:50 Oh, sorry. Thanks. 17:52 I didn't know. 17:54 Do you know how many spinoffs I got from being in Cape Town from the 9th to the 14th? 18:19 I got so many gigs. What are we doing? Appearance. Appearances. I'm on the Bean Capes. I'm from the 9th of December. 18:25 Oh, for Road to 2 Million. 18:27 Oh, wow. Okay. Do you know how many fucking club bookings I've got? You see? For days. Yeah. For days. They want to build up to the hype to go into the show. Oh, okay. Don't you? People need to understand something. That collective effort is not about individualism. The individuals run the engine, but the collective effort is more important than anything else. Uh-huh. So if people go against the collective effort, the collective effort is going to eat you as well. You understand? When you're eaten by the collective because when you want to be an individual, then you are clearly in the wrong place. 18:58 Bro, you've been in the game for so long. How would you have moved if you were BU? How would you have moved? I would have improved my scheduling. Numbusa, you know, baby. Scheduling is scheduling, right? Yeah. We make things happen. We compromise with time. You understand? And we put things on the time versus money scale. If this thing takes more time with less money, I focus less. If that thing needs more time and it's got more money, I focus more. But that will be Netflix and that will be podcast for BU. 19:25 According to what he said. But look. Especially when he started mentioning a mouth. 19:28 Time versus money. 19:30 The podcast, when you're talking about time versus money, it's a long haul. It's a longevity course. Netflix, it's a now thing. Okay? And don't forget, once you've done a commercial for Chiller's Punch or you've done a show on Adulting Day, you are still a product for five years. They can't touch you. They can't use you. Because why? You are on this product. So let's let it die down for five years. That money, you finished it in a month. 19:57 You have to chill for five years for your brand to be relevant again, for them to work with you again. So you don't get back after back of gigs like this in terms of the commercial space. Impossible. Impossible. You can't advertise castle lager today and advertise chillers tomorrow. No. They'll tell you, wait for five years. 20:16 You're the castle guy. Yeah. You're the castle guy. 20:18 You can't do chicken licking today. Oh, like Machana, Machana, Machana, Machana, can't do anything. You can't do shit. Machana, Machana, Machana. He was the face of another cider. Oh, man. Tapala Maguire. Yes. Machana's China's. Now he's got his own alcohol brand, but after how many years? Does he? Yes, for his own wine. It's called Nero. Oh, for real. Yeah, because he was the hunter's guy. So nobody can touch him. You understand? So he couldn't get endorsed by any other beverage whatsoever. Even after his contract expired, that stuck with him. 20:50 You feel what I'm saying? So we have to be very careful when it comes to these things. That's why I always fight for brand individualism. Fight for your own brand. Be a brand as tall as Mo and collaborate with the rest. 21:01 Yeah. What brand are we dropping today, man? 21:03 Ladies and gentlemen, I want to introduce to you the latest sensation coming out of Trollers Moe's Camp. 21:18 Moe Munchies. 21:20 Ah! 21:28 It's a new cannabis ice cream brand. 21:32 So basically Mo Munch is the new soft serve ice cream that's coming out as from December guys. 21:38 There is an infused catalog for Mo Munchies. Mo Munchies is all about a cannabis living experience. So what are we talking about? We're talking about you coming through to the store, enjoying some cannabis, but at the same time, enjoying the taste that comes with cannabis. How do we fuck with your palate? You understand? You smoke a Mac and Crack and have an ice cream with Bishkoff and caramel. Or you smoke... 22:00 what's called a hybrid sativa, and then we'll give you what's called ice cream that's called strawberries, vanilla biscuits, and whatever. So this is what our brand is about. It's experiencing the munchies through mold. So there's sweets, there's merchandising, there's clothes, but the whole point is around the ice cream. Where is the store? The store is coming out very soon. We're deciding in two different places we could be... The crazy part is we're opening in Venda. Whoa. It makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 22:30 You're opening in Venda, bro. Whoa. I got so much business there, bro. It is crazy. My bookings even... I'm doing a show in Mukhala City. When? On the 18th of December. I'm doing a big comedy vendor festival. 22:44 I'm doing that. That's Puluguan. Mukhali city is Puluguan. 22:46 Munati city. Oh, Munati. Munati, yes. That's vendor. Yes, that's vendor. Nice one, bro. Being affiliated to the show has got me so much vendor business. You know what I'm saying? I've got guys from vendor saying that, no, Mo, we want you to bring this Kanna experience there. Bring more munchies here. So there's clothes, there's ice cream, there's merchandise, and obviously Kanna. 23:07 Bro, I love your resilience, bro. I fight all the time, guys. Bro. You have to. I mean, last time you were pushing this, but with burgers, right? Yes, with burgers. 23:16 Burger spot. I once pulled up there. 23:18 Oh, for real? 23:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Up the road. From Oxford, yeah? How was the experience? Going to Stanton. Let's go. No, you're closed. Weren't you closed? Yeah, we're closed down. The thing is, guys, you have to understand. So how was it told if it was closed? No, we had the burger here, man. 23:33 Yeah. And he wanted some stuff. 23:35 You wanted the burgers before you left for China, remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before you left for China, you ordered some food from us. We sent it through to you. Then I also ordered food. You were on that flight. Then it came home. You were high on that flight. Yeah. Just, yeah. 23:48 So I've supported. What I love about you, bro, okay, so, like, obviously, it's like an ongoing joke that whenever you're on the platform, you push something. Come with a new business. Yeah, come with a new business. But, like, that one, like, when you spoke about it, man, I could tell the passion. It was very close to your heart. Very. And then it doesn't pan out. But then how do you, like, bounce back and be like, fuck it, this is not going to be the end of me? 24:08 Being a call center agent taught me how to be resilient. Mmm. Do you know how many people say fuck you on the line? But it's your debt. I'm calling you for your debt, nigga. And you're going to tell me for that. You're not even selling shit. Yeah, I'm not selling. Sometimes I'm selling something to you. And you have to understand something. When it comes to sales, not everyone will want to buy your product. Not everyone will say yes to you. But then they look at how persistent you are with the product. You know, the more persistent you are with the product, that's when I feel like, fuck, actually, let me buy the shit and get this nigga off my back. 24:40 And when I experience it, then I'm like, shit, I've been missing out on this quality all along. You understand? So for me, I come from service provision. I worked at McDonald's. I worked at the airport. I worked at so many different places where I was providing service to people. So I realized something that people are not just about the product, but they're about the convenience that comes with having the product. 25:00 What were you doing at McDonald's, bro? 25:02 I was working out there, man. If anybody had a burger from McDonald's in the Easter end, I won't mention which one particularly. You returned a Big Mac twice. The third one was very special for you. Damn, I wonder what it has. 25:17 I wonder what it has. You son of a bitch. You make me do a Big Mac three times? 25:24 Fuck you, bro. That third one came with love. 25:28 Look at more munchies and think about it. 25:33 I love that, bro. 25:34 Don't you love his resilience, too? I do, big time. I don't give up, guys. It's an amazing spirit. Because a lot of people try once, fail, and... Nah, you can't. 25:40 Not in business. Look, I mean, I get advice from people like Lekao. I was talking to Lekao the other day, and he was telling me that... Yeah, he was telling me that, listen here, dog. I don't give up. If A doesn't work, there's B. 25:53 If C doesn't work, there's D. He's back up now with the kites. So hard. And the stores now. Drip motif. 25:59 Drip stores. Drip motif, yeah. Trust me guys, there's so much things that is available for you to do if you believe in yourself, guys. If you consider yourself to be a brand and you consider yourself to be someone who can sell… Push! Push! Don't even think twice about it. Look at DJ Spoo. He was selling more fire. Like a motherfucking crazy animal, bro. 26:21 Tombisa, another one. There's something in the air there. 26:23 I didn't pay his tax. He's got a thing for my 16 meter. I saw that. Fuck, bro. 26:28 Yeah! 26:29 I think it was like 8 million, then there was like penalties and interest. And interest. And there's also an administration fee of about 60-something thousand rand. Every time they email you, every time they send you a letter, that is money. 26:42 It counts. Jesus Christ. What's up with these celebrities like owing tags, bro? I feel like we're saying a different name, but it's the same situation. 26:49 I think that it's always like there was Pearl 2C, there was... 26:53 I think that people don't know how to differentiate their personal life from business. So everything gets caught up. Now all of a sudden I'm at spare, I'm swiping with my business card. 27:20 You understand? Okay, fine. What was I doing at Spur? Was it business, really? Okay, fine. Maybe it wasn't business. But then how do I justify it on my personal life? Because I'm earning a salary from this very same company. But why did I make my company pay for Spur when I could have with my personal amount? 27:38 Sometimes when you're earning a salary, you willingly just transfer it to your personal account. Correct. And sales will see it as an income. Yeah. 27:43 It is an income. 27:44 You understand? 27:45 Because it's your business. You think you can fuck with money as much as you want to and nobody will see shit. No, no, no. That's where the problem lies. We are not well-administrated as celebrities. That's the problem. Have you had tax issues? Yeah, I've had one or two tax issues before. 28:00 I think that the tax issues come from... 28:04 not being aware that every transaction that comes your way is taxable. 28:09 Sometimes we don't save money on the side for business tax. You understand? You think that you just drew for returns only. No, no, no. Before the return, pay in this, then you get a return. Return. 28:22 Oh, yeah, you make sense, bro, because I remember when I started DJing, right? I didn't understand, but DJ Monday put me on game, right? Monday passed away, no? Yeah, Monday passed away. So all the gigs were going into my personal account. 28:35 Oh, no. 28:35 And he was like, no, no, no, bro, you need to register a company. I'm like, but why, man? It's just gigs. You understand? He's like, no, for tax reasons. Correct. So it's like, the gig money must go into the business, and then the business pays me. 28:49 Yeah. It has to pay you. But always pay yourself a minimal salary, guys. Yeah. Don't be stupid, bruh. Pay yourself a minimal salary because the business is what's keeping everything afloat. Yeah. You know? So I think that the advice you got from Monday is very, very important because a lot of people don't understand or know that this is a business. You know what I'm saying? So if you're going to be charging VAT on your invoice and you're not VAT registered, oh, that's another one. That's another thing. People out there will charge VAT because they're sick of charging VAT. That's fraud. That's another thing. It is fraud. 29:19 It's illegal, man. 29:20 You can't charge me that if you're not registered. 29:22 So what production companies do is that if you're going to come to them on your personal account, they will take 25% pay as you earn from your salary before they've been paid into your account. 29:31 But you see, if you're talking about layman's people, like just normal people, I don't understand. But these are established brands, bro. DJ Spoo has been in the game for more than 100 years. You understand what I'm saying? Like, Peltos has been around. I don't understand how that falls through the crack. 29:46 It's financial illiteracy at the same time. Because don't forget, we put in a place whereby splurging is a must. 29:52 How many times have you seen Peltos here on the holiday? 29:54 Is it like being the illiteracy or is it... 29:58 You're just being reckless. 29:59 You're being reckless because you want to show off a prominent lifestyle. You want to show off affluence at a cost. 30:07 Okay. 30:07 Do you understand? 30:09 Like, for example, I think that Mavuso money should be taxed as well. 30:13 You can't. Yes. 30:15 All these bitches are making money on Instagram. Who's taxing them? Who's taxing Cyan Bougie? Be calm, bro. When is Cyan pay tax? 30:21 Yeah. 30:24 That BBL must be text. It's an asset, it's working. Yeah, asset. 30:38 We have to be very considerate about these things. 30:41 Everybody's being child for tax. Everybody. Look at Mum Kize, for example. Mum Kize is being also child for tax. She tried to do some sort of a social media comeback where she put a bottle of champagne on her boot, on her bonnet and shot it with a gun. That was cringy. That was so whack. Yeah, that was whack. No, man. Not on a get ready with me. No. 31:03 A GWM. Get ready with me. They were a Chinese car. 31:06 You don't know GWM. Why don't you abbreviate the R? 31:10 No, it's GWM. That's the car. Yeah, but get ready with me. GRWM. That's fine. Who cares the fuck about the R? 31:18 Get ready with me. No worries. No, no, the spelling. 31:22 Bye, my new car. What the man? 31:28 Wait, Meg. Yes, I saw it. I saw it. Do you feel like SARS is just after black people? Because there was that kind of conversation regarding that whole DJ's boom meta. That it's always after black people. Or... 31:40 No, I think because, I mean, obviously, there's more black people in the country. So when it's a black person that's well known, it's going to make the rounds. But if it's a white person that's not known, we probably don't know it. But I don't think it's the case. 31:51 But there's so many white people who are known. So they all have their tax affairs in order. 31:56 Then there's that. All the models, the cricketers, the rugby players. 32:01 They're in order. 32:03 Caucasian wife. Have you ever seen tax problems with that guy? Never. He lives with a budget. 32:09 No. 32:09 Yeah. 32:10 Yes. 32:10 And shout out to Sir Colise, man. I didn't know. You know, there's a company. It's like a leisure hospitality. Life and... Life and something brand. Yeah. They own Tiger's Milk. Oh, for real? La Parada. Yeah. Old Italian, old Italy town... 32:31 And Wat Wat Harbour. It owns 5% of it. Yeah, it owns 5% of it. No way. It owns 5% of it. That's dope. So when you look at a tiger's milk at La Parada, Sierra Colise owns 5% of that, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 32:43 Crazy, right? That brand is huge. Moving different. I'm doing a big show actually at La Parada on the 11th of November. It's the roast of Mushendike. By the way, I've been doing... Life and brand portfolio. Life and brand portfolio. That's what they call it. I've been doing a series of roasts to prepare myself for the 12th of December, by the way. 32:59 No, don't lie. Don't lie. You just want to make money. Don't lie. Don't lie. 33:02 Exactly. I have to make money. I'm not getting paid for this show, guys. I'm not getting 12K. 33:08 So I've got to use this show to make money. 33:14 Yeah! So I've been doing how many rows? Maybe four rows now, building up to the 12th of December to flex my comedy muscles so I'm the 12th, I fuck shit up. 33:24 Come on with it. I don't think people understand how amazing the 12th is going to be. Do you know, this is the first time as black people, young black people, creative, we have no, like, there's no... 33:36 someone on top saying, you can't do this, you can't do that. Like, this is like creative freedom at its peak. 33:42 And there's no sponsors or brands that are telling us, you can't say this, you can't say that. It's insane, bro. 33:48 Bro, I've never seen anything like it, bro. It's the first of its kind. It's the first of its kind, bro. First of its kind show. 33:53 A lot of people are going to come through and they're going to see something they've never, like already our creative team behind how the show is going to look and feel like it's insane. You know, I'm super excited. Like just, you know, just to be a part of the whole notion. That's why I've taken the initiative upon myself to get people ready to be comfortable with being in a roast. Sometimes you have to educate them. So that's what I'm doing. I'm educating them before we get to the 12th. But when I say crazy shit there, don't be surprised. 34:21 Bro, I'm so confident with this, because we're making a loss, right? Because we already have many sponsors, it's fine. I told Naledi, I'm going to have to sell some of your bags, but it's worth it, man. Yeah, sell the fucking bags. 34:29 Sell the fucking cartons. Sell the... Send me photos. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. 34:35 Sell the Hermes. 34:36 Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. 34:39 Sell the Hermes. 34:39 Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes. Sell the Hermes Sell the MS. Sell the MS. 34:54 Speaking of our sponsors, man, make sure you elevate your betting game with Easy Bet, the only sports betting site giving you a massive 150% first deposit match of up to 1,500 rands. And that's not all. 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That's why she claims that, you know, she's being held against the wall. 36:11 Bhutwana, don't fuck around, eh? Let's see. 36:15 I'm doing this live because I need help. 36:18 You know? 36:20 Because of where I am now, I feel like I'm kidnapped. Even though it doesn't look like that at the background, but the situation itself, I feel like I'm being taken advantage of and I'm kidnapped. You understand? I will explain in which sense that I feel like I'm kidnapped, I'm harassed. 36:43 And... 36:45 Yeah, like, I'm just, it's just too much, you know. So if you're from Botswana, please share this live before I can share my story. I'm doing this live because I need... I don't understand. I'm trying to call her. 36:56 She's not answering, man. I don't understand. 36:58 Is she still that side? 37:00 I'm trying to find out. I'm calling her, but it's not ringing. It's just saying calling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mo. So, they apparently took her passport. 37:07 Yes. They took her passports, her travel documents, and she was obviously now stuck at the hotel. 37:13 Okay. 37:13 Yes. That's how this all… Where does the 100,000 come in? 37:16 Oh, there's 100,000? Yeah, 100,000 pula that needs to be paid by Makazi to these guys or some shit like that. 37:23 So they was holding the travel documents. Yes. Because they are owed money. Yeah. Or something. Oh. 37:29 But the person who facilitated her going that side is a promoter by the name of Kipipi. Well, that's what his nickname. Kipipi. Kipipi. Kipipi. Yeah. Kipipi. 37:39 That's the nickname. That's the nickname. Kipipi. 37:47 They've worked together before. But unfortunately, when payments were made, he claimed he had paid people, but he had not made that payment. So when her going back now, apparently this company now came out and said, no, we've not been paid. And that's why now they're demanding this. 38:12 You are not leaving this country before we get our money. 38:17 But is she then being held against the will? What can South Africa do to help her? 38:21 So I think maybe there's some facts there that she can just help us with. 38:25 Well, hold on, hold on. Good, man. So you're live on podcast and chill. Tulles Mo's here. Sol is here. Gosselin is here. Yeah. 38:37 Yeah, sure. What's up? 38:39 Yeah, so this is Makazi's manager, by the way. Everybody knows. What's going on with Makazi? We were talking about the story of her being kidnapped in Botswana. 38:47 What's going on there? 38:52 I'm sure you've seen what has been happening in the media. 38:56 So there's a certain guy by the name of Pee-Pee. Pee-Pee. 39:02 Pee-Pee, yes. Yeah, okay, Pee-Pee. Yes, continue. Who wanted to... 39:07 do a show with Makazi in Botswana, a one-woman show. 39:12 So he approached us as Makazi's team, and obviously there must be a proposal that we both agreed to. So the team, we decided that, no, it's not going to work for us. 39:26 Then PP left, and to our surprise, he's claiming that he then had a verbal agreement with Makazi. 39:35 So, obviously, there's no argument. No one can prove it. Because Makazi was saying no. She did not talk to him. 39:42 And waited for Makazi to come to Botswana. She was performing at some all-white event in Khaburoun. And when she got off stage, PP was there with people from the sheriff's office in Botswana. And they were going to have a hot order. Heban! 40:02 So where are we now? Are you guys still there? 40:14 No, no. She's actually on her way back. The matter is resolved because we got the law involved. Good. Yeah, and PP did not have any supporting documents of his claim. So, yeah, Makazi is currently on her way back. Bloody bastard. 40:31 So in Botswana, you can just get someone arrested without any proof or documents or anything? 40:36 Yeah, that was to our shock, you know. And these people, obviously, Makazi's a woman. I wasn't there. I was not in Botswana. I was left here in South Africa. I was doing other things. So I just heard that they took her passport and they also wanted to take her car. 40:55 You? 40:56 Yeah. 40:57 Why is Makazi going with the car in Botswana? Don't you guys have like a bus or something? 41:03 Um, so, we have, we have two cars that... Oh, aski, soor, soor, soor, soor, soor, soor, soor. I'm imagining my cars being a quid from here to Jovo, to Busan. 41:15 Yeah, so, um... 41:22 Yeah, so what TP did was very unlawful, and that's why we got the law to get involved. And yeah, right now, I think everything is... Yeah, they're putting the law. Yeah. 41:39 No, beautiful, man. And then, are you guys excited for your one-man show December, right? Yeah. 41:44 We are very excited about that. People are buying tickets. And we even have another one in Emperor's Palace, which is a road to one-woman show. It was supposed to happen tomorrow. But I will just see her state of mind. Because, yeah, that situation was very traumatic, you know. And we expected to jump back on stage. So we'll just announce some socials when are we moving it to. 42:11 And then BPA, give me to a young BPA. 42:15 Hey. Honestly, I... Pee-pee. 42:21 Pee-pee. Stop softenising it. Everybody don't work with pee-pee, okay? 42:28 To be honest, I don't know his character and we are letting the law to take its course. Good. I will not commend on his character. 42:36 Well done. All right, Maputi. Thank you so much and good luck for your show. When is it in December? What date? 42:41 24 December at Pichamugaba Stadium. Oh, I'm there. 42:44 I'll be in Venda. I'll be in Venda. I'll come to Kulukwan. I'll be home. I'll be home. I'll be home. I'm going home this December. That was nice. All right. 42:53 I heard about there's a tree in Venda that you plant when you're a teenager and it assists with the size of your... Isn't it from birth? No, no, I don't know. I haven't benefited from... When you're 12, don't lie. Don't lie. 43:16 How do you know it's like, man? How do you know it's like? 43:22 Yeah, it's a vintage tradition. The avocado tree is making your balls bigger by the minute. 43:32 I've never heard of that. It's a myth from what I know. But you've heard of that, right? I've heard of that. I've heard of it. 43:37 But it's a myth. It grows in conjunction with your dick. Yes. And when they see that she's getting too big, buddy. Should I call my uncle? 43:44 Yeah, it's enough. Should I call my uncle? He's like 60. He has no idea what the fuck. 43:48 Yeah, ask him, bro. He doesn't even know what a podcast is. I've heard of that. Yeah, everybody's heard about that tree talk. 43:56 What do you mean uncle? 44:27 Variety. 44:28 Variety. 44:29 Hey, Ria Panonika podcast. Ndina toles muu. Ndina son. Ndina kanyi. Ndina live, ne? Ndina live. Hey, buone. 44:41 Rubbed heads. 44:42 Rubbed heads. Vendha unamiri, you know, Woody's Datings. 44:56 Do you know who this is? 44:58 Do you know who this is? Do you know who this is? Do you know who this is? Do you know who this is? Do you know who this is? 45:16 I was like... I was like... I was like... I was like... I was like... I was like... I was like... I was like... 45:49 Okay, translation. 46:00 No, so he's saying, no, it's not from Venda, but it's in Gyan. So I asked him, so why didn't you plant a tree? So apparently what happens is you plant the tree with the person. And then when the tree grows, the thing grows. You plant the tree with the person. 46:15 When the person is born, they're intertwined. Like to plant together. 46:18 Or when you're born. Not when you're born, but like when you start the tree, the person must be there. They're like connected somehow. I see. Then when it grows, then you grow. You understand? So I asked him, why didn't he take me to Gyani? Because he's seen I've been striking from a young age. And then he said, no, having a big one doesn't mean you're good. 46:38 Experience! Maturity! I was aiming for 24 inches. 47:07 Oh, shit, man. Anyway, guys, as we know, today, everybody's voting because we're recording on Wednesday. Don't vote for Carson, guys. 47:17 Carson, Anthony, America. 47:19 But no one's going to think. No one has voted. No one's going to think. 47:21 We're on our way. We're on our way. 47:23 We're on our way. 47:24 We're at 10.30, bro. Come on. This guy. This guy. 47:28 Are you going to vote today? Are we all voting here? Yeah, we're voting. Can we all agree we're not voting for Carlson Anthony? 47:41 Can I hear everybody say yes? Of course we're not. Is that guy for real, bro? 47:46 He's for real. 47:47 For real, for real. He's registered. Do you know it's whack? He was copying Helen Ziller's campaign. You know Helen Ziller came up with a kushesha there? And she was looking cool and she spent a kushesha. Carlson Anthony thought, let me do the very same thing. Oh, wow. He went to some random township, borrowed his friend's C200 Mercedes-Benz, and started spinning it in the middle of the township. Now the kids are surprised. Look what they're doing. 48:12 People can die. There's kids watching. It was very unsafe. 48:16 It was a very, very unsafe fucking thing. You can't spin a C-200. Helen's another push. C-200. 48:22 Are you working again? I'm influencing us now. No, fuck off, man. 48:26 I'm not waiting for a bloody badass partner, man. Guys, don't vote for that guy, man. Do whatever you do, just make sure you do the right choice. Yeah, I was never working for Carlston. 48:35 What do you think of the campaigning? Because I feel like now, you know like everyone started becoming DJs? Yeah. I mean, even Sfiso from Music Plus is now a DJ. Yeah, he's a DJ, yeah. 48:45 Helen Zilla, we saw him DJ as well. 48:47 Are you serious? People don't respect your craft. 48:52 It's easy. That's why, bro. DJing is easy. It's easy. DJing is easy. What were you saying about Fisa before we continue? What were you saying? No, I was saying it's got a song with Timon Express. It's a decent song, though. Timon Express and Basi. It's called. 49:10 So my question is, do you think, like, campaigning and this party thing is the new DJing? Because everyone's doing it, bro. 49:18 Everyone wants a piece of the pie, bro. Everybody wants a piece of the pie, my brother. I think in the DJing world, I think there's so much money in entertainment right now. The kids go out. The kids go out. 49:29 The other weekend, there was Kota Festival. 49:32 There was Spring Fiesta. There was... 49:35 DJ, didn't there's cake? They what? I was at a festival in Eastern Cape. Same weekend. 49:41 Swap, swap. 49:44 These kids, this generation of kids, they fucking go out. They party. They will buy your tickets. Yeah, they drink. They drink. You have to make it worth their while. They will fucking pull up. 49:55 And they don't mind horses, eh? I think they get a kick out of it. 49:58 Don't give a shit, actually. You can play shit as much as you want, but you don't care. Wow, man. 50:11 Just don't give a shit. 50:14 I mean, even, even, what's her name, man? Masway, this Masway lady. 50:19 Yeah, doesn't she have a party or something? Yeah, she's part of a party. 50:22 Some red party. It's called land party. Land party. Yeah, land party. 50:27 She made a pledge. She stopped shaving her armpits. How is that going to help with anything? 50:38 How is that going to help with anything? You're trying to be organic. All the empty roll-on cans are polluting. 50:49 They say we need a different angle. I must shave you guys. I'm wrong, bro. Nah, nah. 51:10 Look at the campaign and come back and tell me whether you're not following CK. 51:14 I follow him. 51:15 I follow CK. I follow you. You must know. You can't block me. You don't know who I am. 51:24 So Ghost Lady, I feel like at this point I lost Roborani, they must start their own party. 51:28 One time, together. Youngstana must be the spokesman. 51:33 Drop that fucking thing off you. Youngstana, go back. Go back. Go back. 51:49 It helps children grow. Oh, crap, man. It's a cough syrup. Combination. He hates me for that shit. 51:56 Yeah, yeah, I saw him. 51:59 Oh, for real! 52:15 They walked right past me. Oh! 52:16 For real? 52:18 The crazy part is, I'm chilling with Amachilas, you know, because I'm doing the interviews at the festival. Yes, yes, yes. So Amachilas are the ones that tell me, pst, namo stan. 52:29 Yo. Na, na, na, na. No, you can look just like, na, na, na, Ed. 52:38 He left! But this is entertainment, guys. It's entertainment. He took it personal, yeah? He's brilliant. I fucking love the kid. He's brilliant. He does his thing so nicely. You know? But just don't take things personally. Everybody is… So you said he drinks what to make… Scotts Emulsion and Sprite. It helps him grow. 52:59 Well, that's why he's young. No! Yes! 53:04 And what he's doing is stunning! 53:07 Brilliant shit. The song is called out now with that kid from DJ Zinte's camp. Amazing, brilliant shit. Amazing shit. The stuff that Zinte is doing with these kids. Yeah, who pissed off Zinte, bro? Yo, she's on fire. 53:19 She's producing hits now. 53:22 She's producing the hits. Yeah. 53:25 What do you mean? 53:26 So bad. What do you say? Producing. You're saying who made her angry, but I'm assuming you mean like she's been in studio cooking hits. Dropping? Yeah. 53:34 What's the difference between producing and dropping? 53:36 She's been dropping. 53:37 Oh, yeah. Dropping, yeah. Yeah. 53:39 What are you talking to producing? I don't know. No, but it's like AI. Fucking bastard. 53:45 It's AI. 53:47 Yes, this nigga doesn't use AI. 53:49 Oh yeah, this is AI. Use AI. She's running a fucking solid campaign. Yeah, but the songs are making waves, huh? 53:57 Fuck, you know what? Fuck these niggas, right? So we're planning on doing a 24-hour stream. First ever for the podcast, right? On the 28th of November. Look out for that. We'll send you guys details. But 20th of November, we're looking at doing the first ever 24-hour stream on the network, right? I will produce a beat that day. 54:14 Oh, for real? Yes. Wow. That beat might be shit, but I'll produce it. But you'll produce it. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Yeah, yeah. What are you using? Using FL. No, I always use reason. I've always used reason. Oh, yeah, yeah, reason. Remember I told you I got like 300 beats just chilling, you know? 54:33 Chandra, Chandra. 54:35 I can only do deep house, it's easy man. The other stuff is difficult. Okay, fair enough. Yeah, I'll do deep house. 54:40 Deep house. 54:41 People are going to want to check that out. It's a kick, a clap, a young shake. 54:45 Cods, pants, binks. True though. 54:52 Guys, but have you noticed something? South Africa is excelling all over the world, guys. If there's one thing that I'm proud of being, it's being a South African, man. Oh, best feeling in the world. I'm fucking super proud to be a South African, man. The cricketers were doing great. Shout out to Mafuma, Ramada. 55:07 You're the cricketers, bro. 55:09 Oh, man. You know how they make me proud, bro. 55:10 Bro, bro, are you hosting? You just... He's hosting this fucking house. Yeah, he's moving. He's moving. 55:16 He's living. He's running for house. He's jimmying. Wow. He's in the tube for the roast. He's doing big passes for the roast. 55:25 South Africa is doing amazing. 55:31 You can't take it away from us, bro. We won the snooker championship. See, who knows about that shit? I don't know that. The guy, I forgot his name, but the guy who won the international snooker championship. It's South African. South African guy. There's a shot that you call when you break the ball and you sink the black immediately. It's an immediate win. He did that shot. Wow, bro. He broke the case of balls. Black ball went in first, represented South Africa. He didn't even realize he won. 56:01 Only after they told him, oh, you won. He said, yes, Ross. 56:05 And he went crazy. Shut up. Black guy, white guy. Brilliant moment. Yeah, you have to see it on TikTok. Black guy, white guy. Black guy. Wow. Black guy. Absolutely amazing shit. South Africa is just excelling in everything we do. 56:16 Yeah, I just don't like now we want to host the Olympics. 56:20 Except the Goa. No, wherever it goes. No, I know. No, I don't think we'll ever survive with hosting the Olympics at this moment in time. 56:27 Dude, why don't we host the Olympics? I think Keaton wants to be the minister who's known for... He brought everything. You know, like he brought the F1, which he failed at. 56:36 Which he failed. 56:37 But he really wants to, like, be the guy who says, yeah, my legacy is I brought this big tournament. 56:43 So they want to now bid for the Olympics. Can you imagine? Just imagine. The only thing that was successful that Gatum brought was the A1 golf. Remember that whole A1 golf at Stain City? Stain City golf, yeah. That was the only biggest success that I could say Gaten brought into the sports world. But other than that, him going to Roc Nation, remember you went to the concert? How much was spent? Over three million rand for his trip to go to- Are you serious? Damn. We paid three million from our tax money for that motherfucking criminal to go and watch a Jay-Z. And then he says, I'm going to bring Jay-Z back to the country to show them how to do it best. 57:16 And Bonang said, fuck you. Yeah, I saw Bonang. Shout out to Bonang. Shout out Bonang. She called her out. She called the nigga out. We don't want no Jay-Z, man, you know. Damn straight. This is the kind of citizens we need in our country. Calling these motherfuckers out for what it is, bro. So we don't need the Olympics, man. Nah. Because that thing costs billions. Yeah, it does. For what? For what? It does, it does. 57:35 So, so, so, so, if... 57:36 He doesn't want us to host nothing. 57:37 Nah, fuck it. I don't want us to host shit. Fuck it. Yeah. 57:39 Especially if the government is paying for it. 57:41 Yeah. 57:42 So if Gaytan comes tomorrow, he wants to fund your ice cream? What are you telling him? 57:44 No, fuck Gaytan. What do you know about ice cream, nigga? 57:48 What the fuck do you know about ice cream? Get the fuck out of here, man. 57:51 I don't know when you're a gay son of a custard. Shut the fuck up. Gays and custard now. I'm a fun guy. G-something spin. 57:58 If your name sounds a gay. 58:02 Are you a gay? Are you a gay? 58:04 Ha ha ha ha ha. 58:07 You're not gonna get along. 58:08 Fuck off, bro. What do you know about ice cream, nigga? Now we have to sell ice cream because entertainment is not working. Come on, bro. No, no, don't. 58:16 Bro, when you mention South Africa is amazing, I want to play you this. It's quite long, but I find it so fascinating. Who am I sending to Tata, no? 58:22 Tato, yes. 58:23 Yeah, so this is… The Americans have found us. You know, bro. Americans? Yeah, so this American, she's talking about how Americans have been lied to, you know? About South Africa. About South Africa. Not even South Africa, just Africa in general. And she's here with the family. She's like, guys, you cannot believe what the fuck kind of life I'm living here. Oh, shit. I'll send it to myself. I'm going to send it to Tato, no? 58:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 58:47 Yeah. 58:49 Hey. But you see, as soon as I sent it, the phone rang. I think my second phone is in the studio, guys. 58:54 Nah, I got a message, same time you sent it. It was me, I got a message. 58:58 You got a second phone, Mac? 58:59 No, no, the one I lost, Ghost Lady. He does, of course. What man has a phone that has no password? 59:06 He's got a second phone. This man, nigga. 59:09 Nah. 59:11 I don't believe it, bro. 59:12 Let's go, let's go. Do you believe it, Ghost Lady? I don't. 59:15 Who is this? 59:16 How can you guys not believe it? Who is this? Let's watch. Okay, sorry. 59:21 Who was starving, struggling, and had flies on their eyeballs just trying to survive. Why did they say that it was all dirt roads and everybody lived with wild animals in their backyards? And one of the biggest, stupidest lies that I see perpetuated on this internet every single day is that Africans, I wish y'all could see the quotes, Africans hate all Americans. That is such a stupid mentality. And you wouldn't even be able to fix your lip to say that if you understood that there was over 54 countries here. I follow this. Don't just identify as Africans. 59:52 The information that's being mis-spread on the internet is definitely causing a division between people that should be united. I'm not saying that we all the same. I'm not saying that we have the same culture or even heritage. But what I am saying is they lied when they said... 60:05 This woman, I've been following her ever since she moved to South Africa. Yeah? 60:09 So she's been talking about all the different kinds of South African experiences she's been having online. And one thing that I like about her, she's not over-exaggerating or making us seem like, oh wow, I didn't know you had power. Oh, I didn't know you had... She's actually saying, I drank orange juice for the first time in South Africa. And guess what? I didn't know orange juice tastes this fucking good. Of course. In America, all the orange juice is... Concentrated syrup. 60:37 She hated it. She hated it in America. This lady right here, I think that she is one of the people that are going to open up the eye of the international traveler to say, actually, fuck, let me go and experience culture. Let me not go for travel and tourism, but let me go and experience culture. Experiencing culture increases our economy, number one, because they live here, they stay here, they work, they bring in money. You know what I'm saying? They influence other Americans or other people from overseas to come through and have a good time with them. We found this, man. 61:06 Bro, you're so right. And I want to play one more video because she couldn't pronounce pop. So I thought it was funny. 61:12 As an American living in South Africa, there are four things that I absolutely could not live without if I had to leave South Africa. And the first one is pap. I know I'm saying it wrong. I don't know if I'm supposed to say pup, pap, pop. Pap, pap, but P-A-P, y'all know what I'm talking about. I eat pap at least two to three times a week, and I absolutely love it. I could not live without pap. 61:36 Number two, Woolies, Woolworths, Woolworthies. Yeah, and then she goes on. How many times are you eating pap a week? Pap. 61:42 How many times are you eating pap? Every day. Every day. No, man, once. 61:47 No, that's not what you're talking about. That says nigga look Peggy Papa. 61:52 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. 61:56 Yes, sir. 61:57 Motherfucker. 61:59 I love those women. I love those women. Yeah, man. I absolutely love those women that cook us pop. 62:18 Yeah. I think that, you know, you have to make sure that, you know, your lady knows how to at least... I love Bob. 62:24 Don't get me wrong. I love Bob. Yeah, it must be a mandatory. 62:26 I love Bob, bro. I love Bob. It has to be a mandatory, you know, so... I'm happy that today I'm going to vote and I'm going to make the right choice for myself. I'm excited to see what the decisions, what South Africa has decided on. 62:40 I'm actually... I'm putting my money on DA. I'm putting my money on Action SA in terms of fighting really hard for Johannesburg. People are going to go out and vote for those motherfuckers. I know for a fact. 62:50 So are you voting for DA? 62:51 No, no, no. I'm voting for Nadeko. Voting Nadeko! 62:56 That's the party. Fuck, it's Nadeko. Exactly. Nobody knows who they are. Those are like one of those wasted votes on those small parties. You know, because I feel like I'd rather give it to a small party just so we can have a little bit more sense of opposition in our country. I'm not voting for any of the major four. That's the one thing I know for a fact, man. 63:12 Who runs your... Where do you stay again? In Lone Hill. Who runs your... DA. DA. How's it been? Clean. 63:21 Oh, Lone Hill is very clean. I used to stay in Lone Hill. It's got a good sense of community as well. It's DA there. Yeah, it's DA. But Rise Mzansi is really cutting up hard there. People love Rise. Yeah, a lot of black people are voting for Rise Mzansi. 63:38 Rise is which one? It's Songhe Sozibi. Songhe Sozibi. 63:41 The girl who left the DA, what's his name? Borsa. How's it doing? 63:46 Borsa? I don't know. I don't know. I think it's not doing that well. It's not doing that well. He's the leader of Borsa. Yeah. He's like, it's his thing. But he's got like, how many seats in parliament? One or two, right? Yeah. 63:58 Something like that. 63:59 Weak amount. Fake checker? Yo, fake checker. 64:01 He's got a weak amount of seats, bro. Nobody even cares, bro. 64:03 Yeah. 64:04 We're not voting for that now. 64:05 What about ATM, man? He seems to make sense when he speaks. And he's the guy who's been taking our president to task with the pala pala. He's the one keeping it alive. And the EFF, I'll give him that as well. 64:18 Yeah, another thing that we're not going to do is vote for Kolani, guys. I'm a Prada. Kolani's which one now? 64:26 He's running for the mayor. 64:30 As if that guy becomes mayor with... 64:32 I mean, it keeps the country going, man. 64:36 No, man. Keeps the country going, man. Keeps people's games going at night. You know, it's life. It's how it comes to the park at night, man. Go on, leave us alone, man. Leave us, please. See you again, man. 64:57 It's a survival. Leave those motherfuckers alone, man. 65:00 There's also that popular... I see this other... It's a colored guy. It's Kurt. 65:03 That guy, Kurt. 65:05 Who's always... 65:05 He's the most annoying motherfucker. And our party. Patriot. Patriotic Alliance. No. 65:12 No, no, no. Is it PMC? PMC. 65:16 Yeah, he's the only guy in that party. PMC. Yeah, he's the guy that goes to the police station. This docket has been here for two weeks. Oh, I've seen that. It's another two weeks. 65:25 The docket is still here. 65:27 I don't know how that guy survives. Nobody likes that guy. 65:32 No one likes him. 65:32 No one likes him. 65:33 No, I like him. He had a fight with Patriotic Alliance and they were clapping him. You see, they're clapping me. They are clapping me in your community and then you're going to vote for them. 65:48 They did that. 65:53 Yesterday, the last day of campaigning, guys, every political party went in hard. If you're looking at your social media, you'll see the desperation in these motherfuckers. They're desperate, bro. 66:03 I'm just thinking that if Kolani came here to do since October, like the network, a lot of people would be doing the last shows. Yo, a lot. I'd be very close to heaven. 66:13 I'd be arrested. 66:14 What do you mean I love you? I love you. 66:23 Our crew is going to jail. 66:25 We all smoke weed. 66:26 We're going to jail now. So Kalani for me, I like his vibes or whatever. 66:29 But I think that we don't want someone who's going to clamp us down and make us feel like we're in a communist country. He's competing with Kim GP. Oh, even worse. 66:53 SkimGP's running under Mabel, remember? Under Floyd's party. Geez, I forgot about that. Now SkimGP, bro, the crazy part is when he did that ETV, ETV. Yeah, yeah. With Kolani. With Kolani Mkambi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Kolani's asking him, what have you learned, you know, doing like, or what are you going to bring? What have you learned in the political whatever sphere? Then he's like, you know what I've learned while driving with Floyd? 67:21 You know, I drive with Floyd. He know what drives. But you're up at the county. 67:26 Floyd was like, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh. You learned politics in the car. Ha! 67:40 No, no, no. No, no, no. That was bad. That was bad. Crash course. 67:46 Ah, no, guys. But you're right, dog. And then there's fluid about, like, everybody just having their own party. Nah, it's not on. It's a lot, bro. It's a scam, no. And I feel like now all the votes are, like, just separate. Like, they're all just spread, like, wide. And one, two, three votes here. And the guy with the 10th vote wins. Yes, now it's his boy. Because all the votes are all over. 68:06 Now it's your design. Yeah. Mandela. 68:07 Mandela. All right, Women's League. South Africa is not South Africa without women. 68:33 Hey, see, see. Hey, what was that for them singing? 68:35 Hey, see, see. Hey, see, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. 68:37 Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. 68:38 Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. 68:43 Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. 68:49 Hey, see. Hey, see. 68:49 Hey, see. 68:50 Hey, see. 68:50 Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey, see. Hey 68:55 I think that South Africa, we're just ready, man. We're ready. I think that we need to rise up like the Serbians did. South African students are in a position where they can create their own political party that expresses their own views. Look at what happened in Serbia. In Serbia right now, guests are in power. The students. No way! Are you serious? Are you kidding, bro? What they did was there was continuous protests all the time against the Serbian government, especially with the level of education and how they were living, whatever. 69:25 But those protests were not working. So then the Serbian youth, the Serbian students decided, no, fuck these guys. Let's open up our own political party and run against them. And guess where the votes went to? The students. 69:37 Ah! 69:38 That's what it is. They're students. 69:40 Beautiful. 69:40 And then they hired, like, I don't know. They put their own team. They put their own team. They're like, we trust this old man. 69:46 We trust this guy. We've vetted you. You're the right guy to be water winner. They put their own politicians. So it wasn't even students. 69:52 It's not the students running. It's just they appointed the people. 69:55 They just use their power. 69:57 Yeah, they use their power. Then they choose the people who's going to represent. I love that. You see, voting works, Mac. 70:02 Voting works, Mac. 70:04 Voting works. 70:04 Voting works. 70:06 Yeah. 70:06 Even in America right now, the landscape is changing in America. Everybody is now becoming a Democrat. Oh, yeah, Trump made sure. Yeah, but Democrats are winning. Trump is getting fucked, bro. He made sure. 70:18 Yeah, and no matter what they do. 70:20 But America's worse. Yeah, no. America's worse because you only have two options, right? Yeah. So essentially what happens is that when the Democrats are in power, all the frustrations of the country fall on the Democrats, then everybody's pushed to be Republican. Yeah. And then when the Republicans are in power, all the frustrations are pushed to Republicans and then people want to be Democrats. But nothing ever gets solved. 70:42 Yeah. Yeah. 70:43 It's crazy. It's almost the same thing here in South Africa, man. You know what I'm saying? For example, every time a new minister, every time a cabinet shuffle happens, whatever it is that previous minister was doing in terms of projects gets thrown away into the bin and a new project starts out. So they never finish shit. Even with the country. 70:57 Yeah. Like, because we can't stick to a goal. We can't. And say this is a 30-year like China does. This is a 40-year goal. Whatever administration, be it a different party or whatever, that comes into power... They continue on the same plan. That's why they fucking built that wall. I mean, that wall was built over how many years? Hundreds of years. Imagine having that kind of focus as a nation to do one thing. One China! One mine! 71:21 One guy! One time! So yeah, bro. That's how they're so united. New guy, new rules. New guy. 71:32 All the time. 71:33 Even in municipalities. 71:36 Look, we had a chat, me and Sol, off air, right? Yeah. And I was like, bro, I'm disconnected with this whole politics thing that's happening. Like, I don't see the value in it. But he made me change my tune by saying that it's important to vote. Yes… It's like we're going through a phase of we're kissing a lot of frogs. Yeah. But we have to exercise the voting so that we can land on the right person eventually. 72:01 That's correct. Yeah, hopefully. 72:02 Hopefully. 72:03 Hopefully, bro. You understand what I'm saying? Hopefully. 72:05 Because you're right. The big four, they all know each other, bro. Yeah, they do. They're all eating. They're all eating. They're all coke oven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And eating. Look at… They all know their secrets. So if DA is in power, they can't tell ANC shit because ANC knows about DA's shit. DA knows about ANC's shit. And so forth and so forth. But if you're saying the Serbian shit, where now there's students that come to the party, that's where now voting really matters. Because we're voting for the right. 72:34 When there's a vehicle fit enough. That's what South Africa needs. A vehicle fit enough. A vehicle fit for the cause. Correct. That's the new ANC. How many 72:42 Many times we hear in other countries, even just here in our continents, that they don't have the privilege of voting. You hear someone, a president will just extend their time without anyone. 72:55 And his birthday becomes a holiday. Whatever it is. 72:58 So it's a privilege that we have that we need to honor as well and be like, take advantage of because this is something that is so potent. 73:06 Bro, when the votings get announced, where does it happen? Does it happen in one building? At the ISP, the National Commission. And all of them are there? 73:12 That's the center, yeah. Let's bomb that shit, guys. Let's bomb that shit. Let's bomb that shit. 73:18 Hey, Matt, no, man. We need those motherfuckers, bro. 73:22 Are you serious? We need those guys, bro. No, no, no, he's not saying bomb IOC. He's saying bomb all the leaders under one roof. You know what I suggest? Can I tell you something? We've seen it happen. 73:32 We've seen it happen in multiple movies. We've seen it happen in multiple movies. 73:35 It's like bombing their liberation. 73:37 All I'm saying is this. All I'm saying is this. That South Africa needs a big political reset. And the only way we can get reset is through the youth coming together and to make up their fucking minds as to where we're going as a country. 73:49 I think us, the middle generation, we're fucked. 73:51 We have no idea what the hell we're going to do. We're going to hear from these kids. We have to hear from them. What it is that needs to happen now. 73:57 You have hope in these kids. They're busy. Fuck it hoes, fuck it hoes, fuck it hoes. What can we say? You're joining them then. 74:03 Yeah, I'm just joining them. Fuck mono, fucks mono. Fuck mono, fucks mono. 74:08 I ain't showing your ass on a jack-off. You're claiming Matt Lack. And he says he got paid well, then. 74:14 Yes, I did. Yo, bro, how is this streaming? 74:16 Is there money there, bro? 74:17 Yeah, there is. 74:18 No ways, bro. 74:19 Let me give you an example. There's a guy right now in America, his name is called Loose Cannon, and he does an AI thingy of Michael Jackson. Right now, he has close to five million people who watch his live. 74:34 You see when you look at the numbers of how many people are online? News Cannon, yeah. Five bar. Okay? The guy makes, I don't know how many millions on the live stream. He does battles. He speaks to everybody. Fabio, the Michael Jackson impersonator who didn't get the gig for the movie Michael. Remember that guy? Yeah. 74:50 Yeah, yeah. 74:51 So Fabio had a problem. He said, Fabio was like, why didn't they use me to be the real Michael Jackson? Because I went through the plastic surgery. I did everything. But he can't sing, he can't dance. So there's no way they could have used him in the movie. So now Loose Cannon came out as Michael Jackson, but an AI version of Michael Jackson. And he's making more numbers than Fabio. So what, is he going live with an AI filter of Michael Jackson? Correct. But he can dance and sing? His voice, I don't know how he does it. He sounds like Michael. But he's saying the most outlandish shit that Michael would never say. 75:25 He's got a big song out now called Big Big Michael. 75:29 And he was talking about how he's fighting against the conventional norm of streaming music, of putting music out there. He's saying that I own a song that's on TikTok and that's only played because of me. 75:42 So he's making millions of money in America with a freestyle that he made on TikTok that only plays in the club. 75:49 Do you understand what I'm saying? 75:52 He makes money through music that only exists on TikTok. He doesn't believe in Spotify, doesn't believe in Apple Music distribution. None of that shit. He distributes solely on TikTok. 30 seconds of a song. He doesn't need to release anything more than that. That sounds like your ass, bro. That sounds like my ass. 76:11 You can get it now on TikTok with two galaxies. Loose Canon. But Galaxy gets some of this ad. 76:18 So follow Loose Canon if you want to understand where the world of AI and the world of TikToking is going. So I'm, like for example, you guys at home can be creative. Come back as Nelson Mandela. Come back as Steve Biko. Come back as Dingan Trabella. Bring the characters back to life on TikTok using AI. 76:38 That's it. So that's it. 76:39 That's what the world wants to see now. 76:42 That's what the world wants to see now. 76:43 So how do you make money on streaming? 76:46 On streaming and TikTok, there's a thing called subs. A sub is $150 per sub. And there's different kind of subs that you can get on Kik and you can get on Twitch. 76:56 So when streamers say... Oh, by the way, shout out to Nasty Man. He did a... 77:02 Five days... A marathon, yeah? No, no, it was a... They were rapping, bro. 77:05 Yeah, it was American. It was called a quick something, quick run. 77:08 Quick run or something. Yeah, I saw that. Bro. So you got like well-established artists and some underground people. And every day they would come and do songs for like 15 minutes. So one day you would have like... Shout out to this guy, man. He's so good, man. 77:24 She's a rap. The only person who didn't want to die. Bro, he's so good. 77:30 Shane Eagle. No, no, no, no, man. 77:32 The song... 77:34 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Fucking amazing. 78:05 Ser Tril is a genius dog. 78:07 Ser Tril is a genius. This is where we're going. This is where we're going. 78:11 Remember what I said? Those streams were like three hours. I watched all three hours, bro. Yeah. 78:16 It was like, wow. So entertaining. Even this boy, Tepe. Tepe. Fucking entertaining. Who's that? Tepe is another kid who does streaming as well. Okay. Crazy boy, he was at your chillest. You invited all these motherfuckers to your launch, man. Oh, that's the chillest team, dog. I don't know these new cats, bro. It's that tough boy, man, who does streaming. And then there's also that girl who's 17 that Nota was macking on. Yeah, the best streamer in the world. Yes, the best streamer in the world. That was Clickbait. That was Clickbait. And then there's Clipfarming. 78:48 And then there's Swanwabi there as well. He's a big streamer in South Africa. Yeah, Swanwabi is huge, yeah. There are a couple, even that Anthony kid. There's a lot of streamers. 78:56 So explain, because I always hear Nasty say, W in the chats. For group? What? 79:01 For what? It's just different puntings on people putting in money into the chat. 79:06 Yeah. 79:06 You know, so for every sub, you get money. When you say doubly chat, you're encouraging your chat to keep on winning. So how much is that money? 79:13 How much is that doubly chat worth? 79:15 It's 150 bucks a sub. It depends what sub you're getting. Even on kick? 79:18 Yeah, even on kick. So what differentiates a sub from anybody else? Let's say he was watching Nasty C's stream. Were you watching it on kick? No, on YouTube. 79:29 So the people who watch it on Kik already have given money through subscribing to that streamer or you can freely watch anyone. 79:38 You can freely watch anyone. Other people can restrict their views to say that I'm only giving my views to subscribers. 79:45 So there's other people who open it up so everybody and anybody can join. 79:49 Don't forget that the numbers also work in your favor. 79:53 You leave it open rather. Yeah, you leave it open. Because if you have a thousand people watching your kick all the time, you get to get a partnership with kick. And when you partner with kick, it's like a badge, like a verification badge on Instagram. It's like monetizing. It's monetizing. Now you're starting to make the Kuala. 80:08 Okay. 80:09 But don't forget, influencers, that money is taxable now in South Africa. Oh yeah, it is taxable down to South Africa. 80:13 So essentially it's like soul DJing and then someone comes and drops a thousand rand to say, I love your set. 80:20 I love your music. I love your work. Keep on going. What's that called? Is that a sub or it's just... It's a sub. You're backing me up. You're putting money... You can ask that I'm a subscriber. Yes, you can still gift me. Like on TikTok, you can gift. There's battles on TikTok. That's another big thing that's happening around the world now. We're battling people. 80:38 Can you do some calculations here, man? We've got too many subscribers. If they're all W in the chat at 150. How much is that? If they're all W in the chat. 80:49 That's 300 million. No ways. 80:51 Yeah. Saul doesn't even have to think about that number. 80:55 Let's W on the check. W on the check. 80:58 So you better be fucking careful. You better be careful. If this podcast decides to go live as from next year, you're fucked. I wish the broadcaster the best of luck. 81:12 Good luck to you. Let's W on the check. He's right. 81:20 Yeah, it's 300 million. 81:22 Thank you, sir. 81:23 In one stream. 81:25 No fucking way. 81:26 Thank you very much. Why do you think these boys are out here balling? Why do you think Kaysenet can do such big productions? Because of live streaming. Why do you think... Who's this other boy, Rakai? He came to South Africa as well. He's like an amateur streamer in America. But in South Africa, he's killing it. He's like balling. 81:44 Oh, yeah. 81:44 But do you think South Africans are ready? Because like, they're used to watching this stuff for free on YouTube. Let's bring Starlink and let's get this fucking shit going. That's all we need. That's all we need. If the Department of Telecommunications can open up the proxy that locks down MTN and Vodacom from owning sole rights to communication in South Africa and Telecom, then things will be much more better. Hmm. I don't know about Starlink. But I'm sure there's other satellite internet providers we can bring. They are, but Starlink is the best at this moment in time. Like, Starlink, like, even in America, they're all streaming on Starlink, bro. 82:16 What about PayPal? Is that a thing? Not PayPal. The one Joe Biden does. 82:21 Patreon, is that a thing? 82:23 I don't know. I've never really done my research much on that platform or that internet service provider. I don't know. So I've really got some new streaming equipment. It's worth like over 100,000 rand. It's a heavy backpack thing that streams internet from some weird satellite. I don't know what satellite that is. What is it called? 82:47 LiveU. LiveU. 82:49 It's expensive, that shit, dog. Live view. Live view, yeah. Now, when you got that, now you're a proper streamer. That means you can go anywhere and everywhere and your connection will never buffer. 82:59 And I kind of get why streaming is big because I remember, like, the reason why podcasts started popping was they were... 83:10 they were an alternative to traditional media and it was audio only yes and the conversations was raw and that's what people like right then I feel like now because podcasting is so big it's become mainstream where like most of the podcasts apart from the network that's why we're so toxic 83:31 Even S.A.P.C. is trying to put... 83:34 Even S.A.P.C. is trying to put podcasts on there. And it's so dry. 83:37 But I feel like podcasts nowadays are curated. 83:40 Yeah. 83:40 You understand? And now I feel like streaming is the alternative. Yes. We see the magic happening live now. 83:47 And you get to interact. Because podcasts is like... 83:48 It's a PR run now. We're not going to have those excuses where... Oh, I was on the podcast. They edited me. They edited me. No, no, no. On the stream, there's no editing here. We're rocking now. Yeah. Yeah. And we talk to you live. Live. In real time. And people are paying money to watch me as I'm speaking now. 84:06 So this is where we're moving to, guys. And you get to engage with the audience lifetime. Straight up. I said, podcast will kill the television star. Give it a couple more years. Watch. 84:17 Didn't Showmax die out? 84:19 Just before, I said it. I said it here first. I said it here first. Then watch. Podcast is gonna kill the TV star. Showmax shut down. 84:28 Not so long ago. 84:30 So prophesize, prophesize. I prophesy right now. 84:32 Are you in your, uh, Sangoma bag? Come on, come on. I predict 2027, 2027 there's going to be a new form of entertainment that's going to hit South Africa through this network and people are not going to be ready for it. You're not even going to think about watching the news at 7. You're not even going to think about, oh, it's 8, let me tune into whatever. No, no, no. There's going to be 24-hour streamed content that's available for you to watch anytime, anywhere around the world. 85:03 That's where I'm at with this podcast. 85:05 Munges, who's doing that? I didn't know about that. 85:06 Don't worry. 85:07 He's coming. 85:08 He's seen it. 85:09 It's from the future. I've seen it. 85:10 It's from the future. We're going to live streaming, baby. That's where it is, bro. That's where we're at with it. Live curated content. 85:18 I love entertainment, but I think this is where I got to put my head and say, I'm cool, man. Don't worry. Live streaming, oh, Munges, it's fine. We're coming for you. Munges, it's fine. That's where we're at now. We're there now. 85:33 There's a show on TikTok that plays for 24, like it plays consistently. And it's a South African channel. 85:40 There's different time slots. Yeah, it's live wire wire. Oh, different people. Yes, different people. 85:45 You think you can do streaming? You think you can adjust to the new wave? 85:49 Surely, surely, man. But you're a natural dog. 85:52 Yeah, I'm a natural. You run this thing like a television channel, bro. Yeah. Well, when you're still on your own, you don't. 86:00 You have to break off. Yes, yes, then other people come in. 86:04 But yeah, I think I can have the energy for it. The network already on its own can run a 24-hour live TikTok stream that never ends. Show after show, back to back, back to back, all the way until 12 o'clock in the evening. And they're all live. And this is already what you've been conceptualizing and dreaming of, dog. So it's just all coming into fruition as we speak about it right now. It is possible. 86:22 Yeah, but we're going to get the 12Ks more. 86:24 Don't worry about the 12Ks. The 12Ks are my generator. 86:28 Fucking rose, fucking rose. Fucking rose. 86:31 Fucking rose, fucking rose. And when you look at me, G, we ask them the real deal. Fucking rose and keep it easy. 86:41 If you don't take advantage of a thing called free media, then you don't know what the fuck you're doing. But it's free media right here, bro. So for me, every time I come onto this space, I want South Africa to know that I'm here to take an opportunity and it works for me. 86:56 Make a way to find opportunities that work the very same way for you. That's it. That's it. I'm part of this channel. I'm dedicated to it. I don't expect a job. I've never asked for a job. I've been here once or twice or whatever it is. And trust me, every time I'm here, I make money. 87:12 Yes, look at me. I'm working in Vanda for what fucking reason? I don't know. 87:23 Thank you, Vanda, for the bookings, bro. Wow. Before you go, man, anything that caught your attention? 87:28 Oh, stuff that caught my attention? 87:33 Oh, yes. 87:34 In South Africa, kids are doing Amami trick dances now. Let's be careful. Let's be cautious. You know, my daughter's 16. She's going to matric nation. She's doing her own matric dance. But I've realized and I've come to seeing that the kids in South Africa are under pressure to come up with crazy entrances to their matric dance. There's a kid who took his life because his mom couldn't get him a certain vehicle. You have to understand something, guys. Don't allow your kids to be taken by social pressure. Yeah, man. Give your kids what you can and make them understand that what you have is good enough. From an early age. 88:05 From a young age. It's from a young age. Not the day when they want a fancy car or a fancy suit for matricdons. That's right. But then you tell them now that, you know, you can't get everything you want in life. Yeah. From an early age. 88:14 What did you rock up at matricdons? 88:16 I rocked up in a Camry, bro. In a Corolla. Man, I rocked up in my mom's station wagon, bro. She asked about my car, but Cesar's friend, Cesar's dad. Yeah. So Cesar's dad worked with my mom. Cesar's normal. No, no, no, no way. Yo, Corolla, Cesar's normal. Can you imagine? Yo, yo, yo, yo. I was arriving in a helicopter, mama. 88:35 Corolla. Yeah, come in a Corolla, man. 88:38 I got up Makoba. T-shirt Makoba. I think he's retired now. He used to teach. He used to teach at Istanbul. I'm in a Corolla. 88:47 That time, those cars were nice for them. No, no, no, it was not nice. 88:51 It was a normal... Nah, 2005. 88:54 What did you rock up in, Ghost Lady? Yeah, it was a normal car. 88:56 It was a Mercedes. Like, I think a C-Class. Yeah, it wasn't a thing. It was a two... No, it was a thing for people who were arriving in, like, serious cars. 89:04 Yeah, serious cars. I'm sure it was, like, a 2000... Yeah, yeah, I just arrived in a Corolla. So, you're saying? With a suit from Edgar's. Because the guy who... was meant to design my suit with two tapes of. Fucked me up. And he created like a lab coat. I've told the story before. 89:18 I remember. Shit came out of the lab coat. 89:26 You know, my mom passed away. You were too, man. My mom passed away last year. 89:31 Call the scientist. Yeah, I'm here. 89:33 Fuck! 89:34 I almost passed away last year. I'm living with my granny. I go to my granny. I'm distraught. And my granny got an account at 8 games. We went and bought a suit. It was a black suit with pink pinstripes. Actually a decent suit. And that's why I made my trick. I asked my cobra to take me in his corolla. Dropped me off. But obviously not that. Front, front, front. Maybe there's more kids. 89:56 I'll meet my tech family. And I did. 89:59 And I did. 90:01 And shout out to Anne Songo, she had organized me a date, Palesa, who I bumped into a few months ago. Yeah, I bumped into, yeah man, had the time of my life. 90:10 Yeah, enjoyed myself. You rocked up in fun. I rocked up in my mother's Volvo station wagon. Wow. 90:16 You know, I worked at McDonald's grade 11 matric saving up money for my matric dance, right? So I gave my mom my bank card. And I thought to myself that, you know, when matric dance comes, I'm going to ask my mom for my bank card. I'm going to get my Kadushi suit. I'm going to hire the limo. And I'm taking out Lebo. 90:32 Guys, Russell Simmons is calling me. Just pause there. 90:38 Yeah, what up, Russell? 90:41 Man, I want to do this thing now, this summit. I want to do an empowerment summit, a super empowerment summit. I want to bring a yoga teacher. I want to talk about get your mind right and get your money right. 90:52 You're live on the podcast, Russell. We greet each other here in Africa. We say hi, Russell. 91:01 What up, nigga? 91:02 Yo, what up, Uncle Rush? 91:05 You live on the podcast. 91:07 What up, Uncle Rush? 91:10 Yeah, yeah, we're shooting right now, so you're live. 91:14 Why you didn't tell me that, man? 91:15 Because you didn't allow me to, bro. Speaker? 91:34 Get a new phone, guys. Wait, wait, wait, Uncle Rush, hold on, hold on. Let me call you back, let me call you back. What the fuck, man? Can you connect me? Somebody give me the phone, man. 91:52 So now, if we were livestreaming we could say, 92:14 If I must call back, Uncle Raj, drop it rose. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. 92:19 What's a rose? How much is it worth? You don't want a rose. What you want, you want anything from a J and above. You want a J, you want a donut, you want a galaxy, you want a lion. 92:28 Yo, Uncle Raj, sorry about that. Sorry, my speaker wasn't working. Yeah, you were saying. You're still live, yeah? 92:35 Oh, I was saying that I want to do a super rich summit. You know, my book is about consciousness and riches. 92:42 And the attitudes you need to get ahead, and I feel like we need to have entrepreneurship. 92:46 And I feel like maybe I'll bring somebody like Damon John, or I don't know who, but I'll also bring a rapper, but I'll also bring a yoga teacher. And I want to teach. 92:55 I want to allow young people to take advantage of the opportunity in their hood. They feel like the entrepreneurs are coming in and eating their lunch. 93:05 We should have our own businesses. 93:08 in our own communities. We should have our own businesses and we should have more entrepreneurs, people more who have the spirit than you have and have an interest in learning about business. 93:20 And we should make it fun. We should have a fun summit with music, with culture. Comedy. 93:26 Don't forget that, Russ. 93:28 Def Jam comedy, yeah. 93:29 We need comedy too, yo. 93:31 Yeah. 93:32 I'll bring a smart, conscious comic, but I don't mean too smart. Conscious comic. 93:38 God, he needs me. He says he doesn't want too much of a punch in his comic. 93:41 Oh, we lost him. We lost him. He said he wants a crush. 93:44 Oh, my phone died. Fuck. Oh, bastard. Get in my zipper phone now, medicine, you guys. Tutu, please put this guy in your phone, bro. Nah, it's enough, dog. No. Nah, nah, dog. It's enough. No, it's enough, man. You can get a 17 pro match. It's the worst, dog. Tutu, please. 94:02 What do you think about what he's saying? Benduka, should he do it? 94:04 Yeah, we should. 94:05 Yeah, man. Especially in SA, bro, you know? Because like you said, the politicians are not the solution. So the more entrepreneurship, the better. Damn straight. That'll be wild, bro. Especially here with the high unemployment we have. So any opportunity of plugging people into entrepreneurship, I think is a great idea. And when he says, I'll bring a rapper, he's probably talking about like Jay-Z, Kanye, bro. 94:25 I'll just bring a rapper. And a conscious comedian. He said, I'm going to bring one down. But the thing is, if you got to see the opportunity that the streamers had with Cyril Ramaphosa, I don't know if they really took advantage of asking them critical questions that can really make a change within their environment. So I was very disappointed to hear the kind of questions these streamers and these 2000s were asked. 94:45 But they young, bro. They young, bro. Yeah, man, you're young, but you're a pioneer in what you're doing. 94:50 You're a pioneer in what you're doing. The least you can do is ask Cyril the relevant questions. What's a relevant question? 94:57 But Mo, when you were 20 in Melbourne, were you going to ask Cyril questions? 95:01 Yes, and what makes them pioneers? 95:02 No, I was going to ask him something random. 95:04 What Mission Partners is about what they're doing is because they're so immersed in it and passionate about it. So they don't know the political landscape and to ask their clever questions politically, you see, because they're all about their streaming. But Ghislaine had a good question. Ghislaine had a good question. 95:18 No, no, I was asking, okay, what would be a relevant question to ask? 95:23 No, I think the relevant questions they're supposed to be asking was about the lack of connectivity. When are people getting paid for content creation on TikTok? That's what he asked. He asked that question. 95:36 Yeah, that's the one I told. You watched the clips. That's exactly what he asked. That's important. He asked that. He asked that. 95:46 TikTok creators who have got more than 2 million views, a million views on all of their content, but they're not receiving anything. The only thing, the only way they can make money is if they go live. I'm a rose, fucking rose. You have to fucking rose. Fucking chat. You have to fucking live and fucking chat. Oh, you saw the chat that crashed in the US. Yeah, it did. Oh, that shit was crazy. It took a 90 degree turn all the way down. 96:05 It lost the wing thingy. The thing that makes it go vertical, it lost it. And then it went. Sorry, guys. The thing that makes it go fast. The wing, I forgot what they call it. The wing something. Dude, you've given up on the fake chicken thing. Yeah, no, she's given up. She's back in the background there. 96:19 Fuck these niggas. Fuck this shit. Yo, Uncle Rush. All I'm saying is this, guys. Please, can you come and support the comedy at La Parada on the 11th of November, please? Yeah, remember, Sia Konichi comes 5% of it. 96:32 We'll call you back. On the 28th of November, I'm also doing a big show in Pitoria. I don't know how to talk to Rasul. Now I'm pushing big music. 96:42 28th November, Pitoria. The mayor of Pitoria is going to be there. 96:47 And then, oh yeah, Munate City, 18th December. Baramin will also gather. Please make sure you buy your tickets. And then to all the people in Durban, I'll be coming through and I'll be showing you guys live. What's the brand, baby? 97:02 Yeah, Hyper Check. All the people of Hyper Check, don't worry. Tell us, Moe's coming. What Hyper Check, bro? Hyper Check is a new store that's coming out. Don't worry. How do you find them? We're dropping 2027. Don't worry. They found me. They found me. But Moe, I think we have to cap it. 97:17 Two products special. 97:18 Oh, Melrose Ark. Melrose Ark, we're going to be there from the 20th to the 3rd of December. Come and experience the lights. 97:26 Come and get it. I'll be your host for December. I'm for the Christmas. 97:32 You know, the moment there's a call to Mo, like, Mo, please, you're coming on to the podcast. He calls out all the managers, all the brand managers out there and goes, I'm going, give me something so I can push it now. 97:45 Yeah, Mo, take your condoms and take this fucking... Don't worry, condoms. Push, my neighbor, push. Push. 97:54 Push. 97:55 Yo, yo, yo, yo. Thank you for the platform. Shout out, bro. Thank you for the platform. We love you, bro. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for 12 years. 98:05 Woo! 98:06 Wow. Yeah, yeah, man. Podcast until boom.