Podcast and Chill with MacG

00:00 Welcome to Podcasts. 00:29 I'm assuming this doesn't end well. 00:33 I gotta ask my fellow 80s babies on this one. I think I'm getting old, guys. 00:38 We are. We're almost 40. 00:40 It's 40 next year, bro. 00:41 But 40 guys never used to be old. It's old these days, but it never used to be old. No, no, no, it used to be old. Remember my mom when she was 40? 00:47 Nah, it was old, old, old. 00:49 Nah, 40 was not old in the 90s, man. Mm-hmm. 00:53 Jay-Z was 40, dropping albums, touring. Now, when the rapper's 40, yeah, 40 never used to be old. Jay-Z was 40, touring, doing all sorts of things. Now, when the rapper's 40, now the rappers are younger. 01:09 Now, when the rapper's 40, he's old. But 40, he never used to be that old. 01:12 Kanye is 40 and he's touring. 01:15 No, he's in his 50s. No, Kanye's 50, 40. 01:17 Okay. 01:18 Are you saying Kanye's older than us? Come on now. 01:20 No, I'm just... Come on now, come on now. We'll listen to Kanye in high school. I said in his 40s. I thought he was in his 40s. 01:25 No, he's almost 50. He's 50. 01:27 Okay. 01:28 So I wanted to ask you guys if you suffer from post-drinking anxiety. 01:33 What is post-drinking anxiety? Wow. 01:35 Because I think I'm going through that, bro. You know, like... What is that? 01:39 When you wake up the next day after drinking and you're like, fuck, why did I drink? Because you've got a headache, you can't do shit. You know, you're just like a vegetable, bro. And the thing is, when you're drinking, it's nice. Like, man, it's nice, but tomorrow I'm going to pay for my sins. 01:54 Yeah, that's for excessive drinkers. 01:56 I barely get hangovers, so nah. 01:59 I'll wake up, I'll function. I'll function. 02:01 You know why? Because when you drink water and alcohol. 02:05 I dash water. I dash with water. So you know how to. Manu, you're cheating, man. That's cheating, man. No, I dash with water for that reason as well. 02:13 Exactly. 02:14 And also, already the water's got calories. The alcohol's got calories. 02:18 Water has calories? Yes. 02:20 Oh, you said water. People, you know, chillers, chillers. But you said that, so. 02:25 You said water has calories. 02:27 Chillers, chillers, chillers, then you're going to say, hey, sorry, all this picking on, go stay. 02:32 No, no, no, don't pick it there. Pick on me if you have to, but you did say water has calories. No. 02:38 I said alcohol's got its own calories, so I dash with water to avoid... 02:47 Pick on me. Pick on me. I'm here. 02:48 I'm back. 02:49 I'm back. 02:50 What did you hear? 02:51 I am back. 02:52 I did say. Okay, cool. Before I could clear my thoughts. Because I heard Gooty. Okay, my thoughts are a bit muffled. Scrambled up. 03:06 But yeah, so I dash with water because number one, It does help with the calories and stuff. Number two, especially if you're going to drink a tequila, I mean, well, tequila also dashed with water. In fact, the water tequila combo, TK Nguza recommended it to me. And then... 03:23 Smoo, my friend, dashes with water. Also because we're not in high school anymore. If you're drinking a Hennessy, a Grandeur, okay, it's gin. But if you're drinking anything with its own like flavor, why are you going to dash it with cold drink? Then you may as well drink the cheapest whiskey you are finding because then you're wasting the alcohol. So you dash with water so that you taste the actual alcohol that you're drinking. 03:49 You know why you do that? 03:51 Because you're old. 03:53 No, no, no. A lot of young people are doing that these days. Really? Yeah, I'm definitely like an old person though. Yeah, where Gen Z's, like they'll have like maybe three chillers and then have a glass of water and then go back. No, no, no. She's saying, why dash with water? Oh, okay. 04:07 No, no, because... Because you know the repercussions of it, right? That's also knowledge of, okay, I need to do this in order to... Oh, fair enough. Yeah, I'm being responsible with my alcohol. 04:17 Yeah, true, true, true. So, but I don't get the anxiety, man. But then again, you got a lot on your shoulders, you know. It's the network. It's the businesses. 04:27 So, YouTube 100%. 04:28 So, maybe that's why you get anxiety and I don't get anxiety that much post-drinking. 04:33 Yeah, for me, after drinking is not nice, bro. It's fucking terrible. But anyway, yeah. 04:39 Yeah. And not like a Monday or a fully working day. 04:42 Because you said that at least you can go heavy on a Friday and then recover on a Saturday so that you're good for Sunday when we shoot. 04:49 True, true, true, true. But it's still not a nice feeling, you know? Because I practically don't do anything. Like that Saturday, I won't do anything at all. 04:57 You're incapacitated. Yeah. Whoa, bro. Regardless of how you drink... 05:02 Even if it's a little bit. 05:04 Like, alcohol just fucks them up. Regardless of what the water, not water, what in between. 05:08 No, no, Mac doesn't do water. 05:10 No, no, no. 05:11 Yeah, that's the problem. 05:12 You don't drink much water or something. 05:14 Not from us then, Mac. 05:15 Nah, leave me with the water shit, man. 05:17 Ah, Mac. You see, then that's why your Saturdays are nonexistent. 05:21 You'll be good. Anyway. 05:25 Ladies and gentlemen, Sonianos is here. 05:29 Welcome back, ghost lady. Welcome back from the funeral. How was Duru? Did she do well standing in for you? Well, the seat is still cold. Hey! 05:40 Ooh. 05:41 Hey! 05:42 Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! 05:47 Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! 05:49 Okay. Yeah, so, Dudu once fought with Ghost Lady and Dudu says... 06:06 Yeah, yeah. No, we can't chill. Yeah, we have new chillers. Yeah, we have new chillers that don't understand. Yeah, come on, we've got chillers. Yeah, and the dude said, the shallots. The shallots. 06:16 The shallots. The shallots. The shallots. The shallots. The shallots. The shallots. 06:22 I was like, whoa. Hey, hey. Hey, guys. Oh, man. Look at the camera. Why would you guys roll this, man? I'm a shyness fan. Look how can we force it? 06:37 25. Oh, yo, yo. 06:40 Pegasus, yeah. Tatos, yeah. Fat chickens, yeah. Simpy words, yeah. I want to ask you guys something. I saw this post. I want to ask you guys. 06:50 Where's that? 06:50 You go spaghella. You go spaghella at some squatter camp first. You go spaghella. But no, she's not at the squatter camp. Okay. Even if she was, nothing wrong with it. But you first cross the bridge from... It's okay. You go wolf. You go spaghella somewhere. 07:07 Yeah, yeah. There's an area called spaghella. That's why. That's why. You go spaghella. 07:11 Yeah. You go wolf. Yeah, go wolf. Hmm. 07:19 Yeah, yeah. But she's from 25. Late 25. I said tell, actually. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. No, man. 07:45 Ghost Lady, go on your phone as well so you can see as well. 07:47 Okay. 07:47 Then you can play with me. 07:51 It's called Build Your Dream Festival, right? So you have 200k to make your lineup. Who are you booking? So I'm up here in a vocalist. 40k each, by the way. You've got Youngstana, Zingumala, Vocalistic, Mahu, Chiko, Tatoati. You can only choose one Ghost Lady. Who are you going for? 08:05 For a MAPiano festival. 08:08 So wait, are we all building the 200k? Yeah. We're all building our own lineup, yeah. 08:13 So this is first a vocalist. 08:14 Yes, which one are you going for? 08:16 200k is the budget. So consider that when you're going to choose an artist. As you can see, they all have their own price tags or brackets. 08:23 Mahoo. You're going Mahoo, right? Mahoo. Alright, alright. Pinduku, who are you going? I'm a piano vocalist. Oh. 08:30 Vocalist? Yeah, yeah. 08:34 Stana, no, stana. Stana there. Stana there. Stana, yeah, stana. 08:39 Okay. 08:39 No, it's fine. 08:41 Stana. 08:42 I'm going. I'm going. Hey, man. 08:57 Have you seen them? No, no, no. 08:59 I haven't seen them. Go to Toiletsville's TikTok. Yeah, Toiletsville's TikTok. But I nominate Youngstana, man. The boys. I mean, the catalogue. I'm thinking catalogue right now. Yeah, I'm thinking Zingmala, dog. 09:09 I'm thinking, ah, she's got hits for days, bro. 09:11 No, not more than Youngstana. 09:12 And it's piano. It's three-step. It's everything, bro. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? You'll never get bored, bro. You know? Oh, guys. But Youngstano was close and Mahu was close. But I'm going to go with Zinni Mahu. 09:23 Oh, yes, actually. Yeah. 09:24 Yeah. Okay. I'm a piano DJ. So which one are you booking? Uncle Waffles, Kevin Momot, Durbin, Gogo, Kabza, K-Mat, or Ma Porisa? 09:32 K-Mat? 09:35 Pori. Who are you going for? 09:38 For Mahu. 09:39 Ah. 09:40 No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm still talking. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not done. I'm thinking Mahu, the DJ that can help Mahu. Okay. Okay. 09:52 Okay, okay. I'm going to go with Devin Gogo. Devin Gogo's a beast, bro. She's one of my favorite DJs. Not like favorite female DJs, just DJs. 10:01 She's good. I'm going for Pori, man. Pori. Yeah, Pori experience. 10:10 Pori is a solid guy. 10:12 Last time I heard him play was years ago. Remember when he had those UK guys and we were hosting them? You know the guys that booked us in the UK? They came to SA. It was years ago, maybe like two, three years ago. 10:21 I wasn't there, man. 10:22 The guys scammed us, those ones. 10:23 Why would I entertain them when they scammed us? 10:25 I wasn't there. 10:27 No, for real, I wasn't there. I wasn't there. No, no, no. I wasn't there. 10:30 I don't think he was there. I don't have time. But I heard him play. That's the last time I heard him play. No, no, no. Nah, Puri's good. 10:35 Puri's really good. 10:36 Okay, and then last one. Afrotech house DJ, 30k each. Are you going for Lala Tukzin, Shimza, Desiree, Cairo, Debu, or Sunny, our musician? First lady? 10:46 One. 10:47 Who are you going? 10:49 Um, Zala. 10:50 Zala, nah? 10:51 Yeah, Zala. 10:51 I'm about to say it's Gala. Shimza. Shimza? Shimza's a god DJ, bro. Nah. Shimza isn't great. You know, bro. Come on. You played with Shimza. Nah, I'm going Zala, bro. 11:01 Ah, Zala. 11:02 No, but she chose Gala. I was going to choose Gala. Oh, we can choose what? Yeah, it's your lineup. Oh, no, no, no. Shimmy, Shimmy, bro. I love Gala as well, though, but I'll stick with Shimmy. Shimmy to the right from Gala. When you have the guy like to shimmy to the right. That guy. Nah, Shimsa, bro. Shimsa's incredible. 11:19 No, I'm going with Lala as well. Yeah, she's good. He's good. So whose festival are you going to, guys? 11:24 Mine, Sol, or Ghost Ladies? Yeah. Which one are you going to? 11:28 I've got Shimsa, Teben Koko. You're going to Sol's one? Yeah, I've got Shimsa, Teben Koko. And who's the vocals I chose? 11:36 Youngstown. Youngstown. Oh, come on. Oh, come on. No one is coming to my festival. 11:40 Guys, who are you? Who are you? Who are you? 11:44 Who are you? 11:45 Who are you? 11:46 Who are you? 11:47 Who are you? Who are you? Who are you? Who are you? Who are you? Who are you? Who are you? 11:53 Who are you? Who are you? Who are you? Who are you? Who are you? Who are you? 12:08 okay yeah but anyway so uh when you were away ghost lady we were talking about um there was a murder that took place with a boxer yeah his name is so we're trying to find out what's happening yeah yeah So apparently, investigators suspect Tete was targeted in a planned ambush outside his residence with Hitman opening fire as his vehicle waited at the gate. Four suspects have been arrested with 22-year-old Uzuzuzole Gopan, formerly accused in courts of hiring the Hitman. 12:42 Police have seized the firearms. Is he the one that rocked up in the wheelchair? 12:47 Is that the 22-year-old? 12:49 I'm not sure. I saw a wheelchair guy rocking up in court. Is that him? 12:52 I saw that. Something like that. 12:53 I don't know. I don't know. 12:54 I don't know about the story, but I just saw an image of a guy in a wheelchair and there's a whole story around him rocking up to court in the wheelchair. 13:00 So police have seized three firearms believed to be connected to the fatal shooting and ongoing ballistic investigations. SAP has continued to urge the public against relying on unverified social media narratives regarding personal disputes until full evidence is presented during upcoming bail hearings. So the word on social media was that there was some cheating happening. 13:19 Yeah, the social media word was... 13:22 The boxer allegedly someone. I'm assuming it's the guy who... 13:29 So the boxer died? Yeah. 13:30 Yes, the boxer was shot. Yes. And the narrative on social media allegedly is that he was rocking someone's woman or girl. 13:40 And is that true? 13:42 Allegedly. It's social media mahemhem. It's the murmurs on the social media streets. So hence the cops are saying people shouldn't... 13:52 peddle these rumors even though we just did on the biggest podcast. 13:57 But that's the word on the street. But look, listen, guys, I don't know whether that's true or not, right? Especially because when is Limpopo coming? After. Yeah, in light of even us having him on the show. 14:12 fuck with women's wives I mean men's wives it's deadly it's a deadly exercise it's a deadly exercise like more so you know there's no VIP in the dating game there's no VIP section everybody can get their person child but it's one thing to tell someone's person And you know that someone. Like, you know the guy. 14:43 That's disrespectful. Regardless of whether you're friends or not. You know him. It's like your neighbor. Even if you don't know. No, if you don't know. 14:50 When they find out, then... 14:51 If you don't know... No, but you're a loser, though. You see, that's what I'm saying. There's no VIP section in the dating game. Because if somebody chows someone... My woman. And I don't know them. 15:06 Why would I go kill the guy? Because... 15:09 I'm not going to kill anyone, by the way, I'm just saying. But the person I'm disappointed at is my woman for cheating on me and betraying me, right? But she caught some bullets as well, I think. The woman? Yeah, she caught some bullets as well. Oh, damn. Okay, that's unfortunate. But you get me? 15:25 But if it's somebody that I know, then my anger is targeted at both because, like, I'm being made a fool. But if it's a stranger, then this person who I share a bed with is making me the fool. 15:38 But how many times, even though you don't know the person, but by the virtue of you here knowing or being told that's the person that was with your wife, you erupt. 15:50 But why? Because unless that guy was told and was warned that, yo, this is somebody's wife, don't you dare. 15:58 It's the wife who is going and is a willing participant in this betrayal and you being made a fool. It's your wife. The other guy is innocent. 16:09 No, no, I'm just trying to... 16:11 He's innocent. He's just seeing what I saw in my woman. A hot girl, a hot woman. He's seeing what I see. He loves what I love. And he wants what's mine. And he doesn't know it's mine. But she knows it's mine. And she's giving it away. So I can't be angry at the guy. I get you. Unless I know him, then it's a different story altogether. 16:30 I totally agree with you. But how many times do we hear of situations where a man is cheating and then the wife goes and attacks the woman? 16:40 That happens too. Even vice versa. 16:43 Whereas you should be mad at your husband for cheating or your boyfriend. 16:46 To me, you're weak. 16:47 To me, you're weak. Because more so when you're a woman because it's your man who's chasing after other women. Exactly. So why are you angry at the other women? 16:55 But let's be honest, guys. Isn't that where the excitement is? Knowing that there's someones and you're just stealing, you know? 17:01 Ha! Look, look, I get you. But not if you know who it is. Because let's be honest, most of the time when you're sleeping with someone, they belong to someone else. 17:09 Not if you know, yeah. 17:10 As long as you don't know who it is. 17:13 Even when you know who he is. It's even bad. 17:16 Bro, you're playing with fire. It's even bad. Bro, you're playing with fire, bro. You are playing with fire, bro. Like for me, and also, to me there's no excitement, bro. 17:26 Yeah, exactly. 17:27 It's just like, if I know that nigga, he's been here. 17:32 And I'm here. For the virtue of me knowing who you're dealing with, it's already a turn off. 17:36 Nah. 17:38 So there are a few people then, I guess, who are like me. 17:42 Yeah, no, no, no. It is. I get you. I wouldn't. I've never, ever been with somebody who I know is with somebody that I know. I can't. 17:52 I just can't, bro. 17:54 I just can't. Like, because... 17:58 It's like I'm in your home. 18:00 In your absence. It is deep. It is deep. It's like I'm in your home. It's like I'm in your home. And I've broken in. 18:07 Yeah. And I'm in your home. Exactly. 18:09 And you know me. 18:10 Yeah. 18:11 And I'm here. You don't know that I'm here. I'm seeing your pictures with your kids, your family. I can't, bro. 18:16 Some people are just too, like, too self-aware or even just too much aware of their surroundings than others. Some people are just able to, ah, man, it's just me and you. 18:26 No, to some people, that's the excitement. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, exactly. That's what gives them the harder hard-on. 18:31 No, no, I'm saying then there's us who are just too aware of what it means for other people. I'm too sensitive. 18:38 What are you saying? So if you know, if a girl comes up to you and you know who she's dating and they happen to be your friend, you're going to say, no, no, no, no, I can't. 18:46 Yeah. Yeah. 18:46 I can't. 18:47 In fact, I'll tell my friend, bro, I don't think that girl is for you. 18:52 For real. Are you going to go that far? 18:55 I'll find ways. It depends on the relationship I have with him. But I'll be like, yo, man, if I need to, I will. If I need to, I will. And I expect the same of all my boys around me. If they see my woman acting funny, and maybe it's a side of hers I haven't seen, I expect them to say, bro, I don't think this is the person you should really be as serious as you are with because the way she moves. And that's true friendship. That's what I expect of my boys. Not to see my woman and then you are game behind my back. 19:31 Are you even my friend? 19:33 But what if that information is like exaggerated and it's not what they thought? 19:41 Before coming, just like before I go to him, I'd be sure, Guti, this is the situation. And I'm certain now. I'm not getting vibes, feelings that could only maybe be internalized. And I'm like, nah, this person definitely is hitting on me. I'm telling my boy. 19:56 We'll see you after. MacGyver. You want to get killed. MacGyver. 20:06 Agava sounds like those guys who do the away games. You know you must never do an away game, right? Especially with a woman you've never... You just met. Don't go to her house. What's an away game? Go to her place. 20:19 That's an away game. 20:20 Oh, so rather sleep with her in your home. 20:23 In your home or where you know in your... 20:27 a place that you planned, a place that you arranged. In a hotel. 20:32 Oh. 20:32 As opposed to going to her place because niggas come through and then there's a guy towering on top of you in the morning. 20:39 Ah, Meg, would you do an away game? 20:41 Yeah, why not? It's exciting. Away is nice. 20:44 It's nice. It's a different environment. 20:46 That's why you die, bro. And then you're going to have another different environment. Second location. Yo, uncle, uncle. 20:53 Ha, ha. 20:53 Whoa. Whoa. 21:08 So, no away game, bro. 21:10 By the way, we're going to be chatting to Limpopo Boy later on. 21:12 Yeah, I'm a kid. Find out what happened with the infamous video, you know what I mean? 21:17 But before we come to you, Ghost Lady, make sure you elevate your betting game with Easy Bet. The only sports betting site is giving you a massive 150% first deposit match of up to 1,500 rands, bazooka. Yo, yo, yo, bazooka. Did I just say bazooka? 21:31 Bazooka. That's how excited he is over the amount. 21:38 But that's not all. 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Because I don't think she was no longer Christian when she accepted the incest. 22:37 We just assume that, Moe Sangawama, you're not like... 22:41 You're Christian still, you believe in God, but you're not like going to get baptized or something. 22:46 Yeah, so it was her getting baptized at a certain church in Centurion. And she's just welcoming her new life and she's put away all the past of the ancestral calling. Remember, she was Gogo Sumahashi. 22:58 Sumahashi, now she's hung up her shoes. She had a Gogo name. Yeah, they all do. Yeah, they all do. You got a new name. It's like a wife when you get married into a new family and they name you. What would be your gogo name? My gogo name? 23:16 Aren't you given one? Oh, you're given one. You're conscious. Oh, at this rate, I think we can play around, you know. Somapan. Somapan. 23:26 Yes, yes. 23:47 Cooler image. 23:49 I don't know, but she looks happy, man. Oh, those are pictures. It's a white people church. Yeah, it's a white church. Oh, lack of, man. 23:56 So are they tolerant? So that means she's, has she let the Sangoma thing? She has. I don't know if the church, the white church is going to be, like, tolerant of, like, you know, the stuff. 24:05 Yeah. Like that, bro. 24:08 Like, oh, come on. Oh, the stuff? 24:10 You can't talk. You still don't have the stuff? 24:12 You know, I don't think the white church is, you know, tolerating. I don't want church that, like, accepts season one and stuff. You got the stuff. The stuff, oh, you got the stuff and the snuff. 24:24 The stuff and the snuff. Nah, snub the snuff. 24:30 Oh, so she's let go of the... Wow. 24:35 So she literally did that. And so many other, I think, you know... Yeah, many people did. Have done that thing. 24:41 So Musi's baby mama, I remember her as well. Yeah, yeah. 24:45 I'm even more convinced now that... Because I've always struggled with the idea of... 24:53 if the ancestral callings can go hand in hand with Christianity, I think now I'm convinced that it just doesn't. Because of the way I've seen this trend, as much as some have tried to say, no, it's intertwined, it works together, you know, it's not just about believing in ancestors, it's also acknowledging God and all. But I think now I'm even more adamant. 25:17 But how many people go to church on Sunday and then Monday they see a song on them? 25:23 A lot Exactly A lot That thing still does Because Come on Even like Hey That's We got a very religious Conversation But Acknowledging ancestors because God created everyone. Even the ancestors God created. 25:42 Yes, true. 25:42 So it's not like it's one world versus the other world. It's not like Satan and God and they're clashing. It's spiritual warfare for eternity. It's just ancestors and God is there at the top, very top. 25:58 I think for me... Just like the Christians, you know. It's Maria, you know. She's... Was a human? 26:08 I can't speak for... She's human. The other denominations. And I'm not... Denominations. Yeah, denominations. And I'm not... while knowledgeable exactly on how they go about and how their belief is. 26:21 For me, I just stayed in the fact that I've understood God and I've known God for myself and I've seen God work in my life. And that's it. 26:30 So you've never seen a sangom? 26:32 No, I've never. Consulted? No, I've never. I've never seen reason to, actually. 26:37 Yeah. But then you can't say... 26:42 That one can exist in both worlds. If you have just existed in this world. Yes, yes, yes. 26:49 I'm not speaking for others. I'm not speaking for others. I'm just saying with the pattern that I've been seeing, because the same... 26:58 They tried driving that thing of the two worlds can work together. And then Chigi Chigi, I've left that. I'm focused on this. Therefore, I'm just taking from that. 27:09 Has Tineo said she's focused? I just made a joke because I see white people baptizing her. Were they baptizing her? They were, yes. I don't think the white people are going to be like, you know, very tolerant of Ubongo. 27:20 No, no, but from everything, it's like I've put away my past of my ancestral... connections and therefore now I am. 27:28 What if that's why your seat is so cold? Are you going to pray about it? How do we know about it? 27:37 No, no, no, no. You know what I want to say from that? With proper context. I watch Pinga Nation talk. Oh, I watch Pinga Nation talk. 27:45 For the fact that I came back and the city is still cold, it means wherever she went to was not strong enough. My God! 27:54 Jesus Christ! Hallelujah! What should you do to do? All the blowing and the... The staff... 28:13 Yeah, and the snuff. The snuff. 28:15 All the stuff and the snuff. The stuff and the snuff. 28:18 No, man, it's tricky, man. I think people must just do whatever they believe in, man. And as long as it makes you happy, bro. 28:23 Yeah. 28:23 Like, it is what it is, man. 28:25 And the thing is, I feel like, you know, Christianity can be complex because it's trusting in the unknown. 28:30 Yeah. 28:31 Whereas people have this desire of trusting tangible stuff. With ancestral callings and ancestral, you know, worship. it's more based on tangible things. So people then end up having to focus on things that they can touch and see and relate to and that's why then they can be like, go in that room. 28:53 Dudu's shaking her head, shaking her head there. 28:56 Can we give... Oh, you want to start, Busi? No, start. Let's start with Busi. Busi, hit the bell. 29:05 What did you want to say? I just wanted... Christians are going to come for me about this. But I just wanted to say that... Don't know, hey? I just wanted to say that us as Christians, we need to understand that ancestors were also in the Bible. 29:25 There's a verse on Matthew 17. I'm not sure exactly what verse, but it's Matthew 17. Before Jesus was crucified, he went to the mountains to pray. 29:35 And while he was praying, two past prophets appeared in front of him. Moses and Elijah. And they were trying to tell him that... you need to be crucified because this is God's plan. He actually didn't want to be crucified. So his ancestors basically told him that this is part of our plan. You need to trust in us. So to us black people, we could see that as a pattern, something similar, of you asking advice on how to go forward. But in our churches, they never preach about it because then it will feed onto that idea that it is possible to worship God or to have ancestors and worship god at the same time there's one church that they omit from it yes but it is in the bible there is such a verse there's actually a lot of verses and instances where past prophets come to their descendants and actually advise them or speak to them about things we have david david was the son of Solomon or the father of Solomon. 30:37 All those people have some sort of connection and their lives kind of connect and the way they think, the way they do certain things. It's all from ancestry. But hey, I mean... Bam! 30:49 Tato, how did you let this one go, my man? I'm thinking how did her baby daddy let it go. 30:52 I was thinking the same thing. 30:54 I'm like, I think I've been president of her. 30:56 Listen to that. 30:58 Yeah, she feels gone, my man. But you know there are people that will be like, you've misinterpreted that verse wrong. 31:03 He wants the mic. Oh, yeah. 31:08 Oh, excuse me that you do. I said get up with so much gusto and vigor. Yeah. 31:15 Yeah. 31:16 Gata is going to hand it to Dudu. Yes, Dudu, what do you say? You see that line? They love that line of, oh, you're translating the word wrong, the word of... That's not how you interpret the word. You're interpreting the word. So how do you interpret what she just said then? 31:31 From the other side. The other side. The correct side. 31:35 No, no, no. I'm just saying, I won't say it's wrong, but I agree in the Bible. Hence, it will be the son of, the son of, and there's a whole lineage that's mentioned. 31:48 Yeah, the lineage is important. Why? 31:50 And that's obviously the ancestry. at the end of the day it is yeah yeah so you don't ignore it you are obviously of someone because for you to be here you came from someone so granted for me it's it's just becomes the the the worshipping factor the praise factor and yeah you said you don't speak for other denominations when i spoke about catholics which denomination are you Charismatic? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, I can say charismatic. 32:21 Nazo. 32:22 Love it. Nazo. Bring up that drum kit and guitars. 32:27 Oh, yes. Literally, you know, she spoke about exactly what I wanted to say as she was speaking to say that Even in the Bible, there is ancestors. 32:39 That's the reality. I agree with that. Even the Jesus we pray to, he was crucified, he died. Son of Mary. Therefore, technically, makes him an ancestor. So that's what I wanted to speak to, that it can coexist. In fact, it is coexisting. We can't lie about that. It is coexisting. And it is true that you can be... 33:04 believe in ancestors and believe in God at the very same time. 33:08 Yeah. 33:08 You know, but the discussion here is about then the people who come, like I was quoting to say, no, I'm leaving that part to focus on this. I don't think it's about the fact that they don't coexist. But I think sometimes it's about the fact that you went into a path that you were not meant to go into. 33:27 Mm. 33:28 because of whatever was communicated to you, whereas it wasn't meant for you. 33:33 Got you. 33:33 And then at some point, as you grow, as you, you know, grow into yourself, you realize that, okay, actually, this is not for me. I was told that because my great-grandmother was a inyanga, I'm the one who must be. Whereas, not necessarily. That's why they can leave it. Yeah. 33:51 All right, Ghost Lady, what else you got for us? 33:53 So, Usumizi is going through the... Some gaga, some gaga. Yeah, he's got a whole tax bill. Saraj is after him for about 19 million. 19? One nine. 34:04 Wow. One nine. That's a lot of millions. That's a lot of millions. 34:08 That's a lot of money. 34:09 So what happened was, is that apparently this amount was at about 11 million, but because of interest and... 34:18 So that's how now it's gone up too. 34:19 So about 11 million. That's still a lot of money. 34:22 Yeah, that's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. 34:23 But in 2022, didn't they like sell these TVs and stuff? I think they raised like 3.5 million. 34:28 Wasn't there a whole property that got sold because it was also going through the same thing? Yeah. 34:34 I'm not sure about the property, but I remember... Over a SARS bill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 34:39 Oh, so what does that mean? Does that mean he absconded on whatever arrangements he made with them and that it climbed up? Or it's a new bill that they've uncovered a new income stream somehow? Because surely if they've taken things, then there was already a conversation with SARS. 34:54 And the thing is with SARS, it's tricky, man. Because I'm thinking, like, if I'm some Gaga, like, Samisa's a big brand, right? He's probably entrust people to handle that stuff for you. You get what I'm saying? Sometimes when these things happen, you're not even privy until like shit hits the fan. 35:08 Yes, yes, yes, yes. I remember. 35:10 Because I don't think, I don't think, yeah, I don't think some music is doing his books. 35:14 He's hired people that do that for him, bro. I mean, if he's making money with nine... You're assuming he's hired people to do that. 35:21 Yeah, you're assuming. 35:22 Some people just take gigs and keep them moving. 35:24 Yeah. 35:25 It's some gaga, bro. This is the guy from Serafina. He's been in this game for years, bro. He knows how these things work, bro. 35:33 Everybody's got an idea that all this money I'm making, I've never really paid a tax man anything. Exactly. I take the gigs as they come. And maybe sometimes... So you're saying some Gaga. 35:45 Is that a point where he could be like that? Where he doesn't have someone who's doing his books? 35:49 Bro, the industry is full of surprises. Wow. You are saying he should have his office in order. No, no, no. And you're assuming that. No, no, no, no. I didn't say that. 35:56 I didn't say that. 35:57 What are you saying? 35:58 Oh, what are you saying? I said that... 36:01 With SARS, it's tricky. Because someone on Soumizi's level, you usually entrust this with other people to handle their food. 36:08 Should have the house in order. Yeah. 36:10 That's what I said you said. No, no, no, no. You entrust it on other people. And your argument is saying, no, what if he's just taking gigs and there's no people handling the books for him? 36:19 And I'm saying, that's impossible. It's some G, bro. 36:22 Yeah, well, it should be impossible at his level, but it may well be possible, bro. Fat checker? May well be possible. 36:31 To answer Sal's question, according to here, the original debt that he owes Sal's was $11.8 million, right? 36:39 Yes. 36:39 But it was unpaid. So the total accumulated due to interest, which made it $20 million. 36:46 Penalties and fees, yeah. 36:47 And isn't it funny, out of all the government... 36:52 agencies or like government companies or whatever. SARS is the only one that works properly. 36:57 Right. 36:59 SARS is the only one. 37:01 They don't miss a step there. 37:02 No, they don't. For some reason, I get happy when they go to like, they go after the one million gang, you know, up. Because now they're going after me for 2,000 rand, you know. I get messages every day. 37:18 Oh, for real. 37:18 In 2000, guys. 37:19 That's crazy, bro. You're right. 37:21 They arrested. I've arranged 150 per month. Yeah, just to make an arrangement. Yeah, 150 rand. But this rate, he needs to arrange like 1 million. 37:34 No, but you're right. Because there's an old lady, bro. An old white lady. She's like in the 70s, 80s. They arrested her. Oh. Because her husband passed away. And then the husband left the money with the wife. But then the wife never declared that money to SARS. So they arrested her. 37:52 If I'm that age, I'm praying to die. 37:55 Bro, what about all these guys that make out commission? Because they all be sending like $4 million to you, $3 million, $8 million. They say Capitec, proof of payment, $5 million. 38:06 Or a cash deposit. Yeah. Or a withdrawal of... Yeah, we're all going to see these crazy amounts. 38:12 What about those guys? And I'm like, where is sauce in all of this? 38:16 Yeah. Why are they not working there? 38:18 Did you see Brad Mukhazi trying to escape? I saw that. 38:21 disguised I don't think he's complimenting this upstairs and if he's not how did he then get to be involved in all these things with more him sending him messages that he represents or he speaks for so and so because that's high level stuff are you surprised though with that thing of immortal that time That's what I'm saying. He's got this demeanor. 38:48 But then he's involved with some really serious people and serious things. 38:52 How did they catch him? Because he tried to disguise as a prison official or something. 38:56 No, no, no. I think he was planning it. I think he hadn't pulled it off or executed the plan. He was just planning it. He was planning it, I think. And then somebody like, whoa, bro. You've got this whole grand plan of... He thinks it's a movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you can shoot your car and say, and they say you're a double agent, the macaque machine. They say he's a double agent, right? 39:18 He's got hand-loss. I'm like, this guy's touching like him, man. 39:22 He's not going to see the sun for a while because even with the bail, it keeps getting denied because of the address. It doesn't have a reliable address. Now it's like, no, my wife just moved into a place. I've got a reliable address. He's going to be in there for a while. He's going to be in there for a very long time. He's still getting implicated now. Like every time, new day, it's a new charge. We found out now that he was... 39:49 acting on behalf of the SAPS and signing off and giving CB, granting him a letterhead and a whole letter to go to the Czech Republic to go get some grabber on behalf of SAPS, only for that thing to be sold to the Swati government. 40:06 And then I saw Kat took the stand again this week, right? Yeah, he's... Any new updates I didn't watch? Like, any... 40:14 Pretty much, it's Kat and Mouse there. He's refusing... He's refusing to answer a lot of questions. Okay. Claiming he's going to implicate, incriminate himself. And it's been a back and forth, but nothing really new. They've just been going through WhatsApp, bank transactions. Gotcha. Yeah, but nothing... 40:36 Hectic. Anything hectic now you can think of that came up? Nothing. It's just transactions. New names are coming up. Akripa. 40:44 Kozai is a guy who... So it's weird, man. They've got this system where this guy pays you, but then you must send approval payment to another guy. So it's just very weird. And he's not being super transparent as to, okay, this is what we would. 40:59 You know? 41:00 Yeah. And then he spoke about him meeting Mkwanazi today. And Mkwanazi wanted to know who's paying... The good or the bad Mkwanazi? The good Mkwanazi. Okay. The bad Mkwanazi doesn't play at the levels of Kat Matlala. Gotcha. The Iran's errands for them and it's blue lights for them. He was asked by Mkwanazi, Kaka Mkwanazi, who's paying Sbeer? 41:22 I think that was, but he didn't want to answer. I don't think he answered that. 41:27 What else got your attention? Oh, sorry. 41:30 No, no, no. I'm saying when you're talking about transactions and stuff, there's a whole case of this person who's famous online, and they got caught with the wife. And it's all this thing about, you know, sending a proof of payment and then wanting the money and So they were buying a vehicle, apparently. That's how they got caught. 41:49 Yeah, so they went to AMG or Mercedes. 41:51 Mercedes. 41:52 And then Mercedes needs... To buy a V-Class. To buy a V-Class. But dealerships under law are meant to ask you and you're meant to declare source of income, how you made this money. And they couldn't. 42:05 And then the dealership, shout out to the dealership, instead of just taking the money and keeping quiet, because they could only take the money and keep quiet and for the sakes of paper, just put whatever. They raised it. But they were like, nah, they raised it with the authorities. 42:18 Because apparently the cow has cost us like one point something million. But then the wife sent more than that. And then next minute it was, okay, send the balance to the husband or another account. That's when it was like, hmm, something is fishy. And apparently that wife is a lawyer. So she's been like... 42:40 taking funds from oh it's a whole story but that guy I don't get him bro like he's always like posting shoes damn shit to prove he's got money not him on the social media he was posting no no it's him on the but the way he gets the money the wife is on because she's a lawyer and they take money from you know the deceased estates so obviously yeah lawyers do a whole lot of things yeah so it's a lot of the trust as well they rob a lot of trusts what caught your attention my dog this week bro 43:07 Have you ever gotten a message from a stranger and they're like, they dreamt of something, but it's regarding you? 43:17 Yes, yes. Don't you find that annoying? Yes, the last time was when… Remember when I had the 072 number? Yeah. So we had a WhatsApp group. A chiller's WhatsApp group. 43:28 Oh, I remember the chiller's WhatsApp group. We used to be a part of it at some point. 43:31 Yes, yes. So some chiller on a random day just sent me a message. 43:36 Oh. 43:37 Yeah. 43:38 Yeah. So, like, Anele also got a message. And I'm like, it's so weird, man, when people have these premonitions and these dreams. And Anele now took all these screenshots, posted it, you know, with the person. And the things I was saying, like, that And then this kid is going to get sick. The step-mom. And then the step-mother, because you know the dad is married to this young girl. And they're trying to divide the family. 44:09 But now this thing is falling onto the kid. And I'm like, yo, bro. 44:13 Why would she put it out there like that? 44:15 Who? 44:15 Anil. 44:16 Because a stranger... Why would a stranger just inbox you that even if you're seeing these things? 44:22 That is terrifying stuff. And now you're rattling someone over their family. Like you're speaking about my kids. 44:28 Yeah, but why put it online for other people to see that? 44:32 Because she doesn't believe in it. She just thinks it's... And also she's received many... 44:38 And she thinks it's... It's invasive, bro. Like you can't just talk about my child and my... Yeah, you dreamt about them. Don't tell me and talk about my child and my family. 44:49 I get it, but I'd rather just go in my social media platform or wherever I can talk and say, please just stop sending me these things. It's okay. It's fine. 45:02 I don't know why. And putting it out there because, God forbid, something happens. It'll be like, you're the one who even sent that. 45:10 And put it out there for people. But people also must... Limit their gifts if they've got the gifts. 45:16 But that's what I'm saying. 45:17 You're going to rattle somebody out there over what you believe is something and it could be nothing as well. I get you. And these are sensitive things. 45:25 It's very sensitive because that's what I'm saying. It's like rather she could have just still speak about it, but rather say, guys, all of you who are DMing me or about your dreams, don't do that and just leave it there. Then put the... 45:39 I think this one was very scary. 45:42 God forbid something happens and then it will be like, now people will even be attacking you, whatever that has happened on this now, on this DMs that you've received. 45:52 But think about it. It's also a great strategy if something was happening. Let's say if everything in there was valid. Then it's also a way of saying, world, look. 46:04 And I'm not saying this is her thinking, but it also works like that. Because if someone says, and then me, I go online, I'm like, I'm sick and tired of this shit. And I post it. Now the world knows that we have no idea. 46:21 No, no, no. I would rather send it to that person or the family as well. And say, this is what I've received from that, but I'm going to tell them to stop sending me these things. But this is, I'll still tell the family, not... 46:35 The world. 46:36 Different strokes, man, for different folks. 46:37 But you're right, Pinduka, it's very evasive. I mean, that's why... It's invasive, man. Yeah, that's why Buji and Boiti fought, remember? 46:44 Oh. Yes. Why? Because Boiti was telling him live. 46:50 Oh, that's good. Yeah, yeah. It's that thing of, you know, that happened to me once. Whoa, so you got a whole reading in a taxi? Yeah, a long time ago. 46:59 But then I don't want to tell you things like, yo, bro. 47:12 chill man yes oh yeah it's the same thing but that's face to face unsolicited readings like if you've got the gift you've got the gift and surely God will find a way of connecting you with this person right but Now, you don't know whether the person subscribes to what you're about to tell them and what you are gifted in. And you're just going to fully tell and you're in the inbox. It's not you giving... Or just ask for permission. Yes. I had a dream. May I go further? 47:43 Yeah. 47:49 I get that. I totally agree with that. 47:53 And I can also appreciate the person for sending you this in the inbox, then posting it online. Because sometimes, how many times we've seen Abba Tandazi or these... 48:06 people who just post things like, oh, this celebrity is going to die. Wara, wara, this is what's going to happen. Yeah, yeah. Hey, man, what the hell? You understand? So, yes, I appreciate that it's to the side. I'm sending it straight to you. And then I can still use my platform to say, everyone's sending me in my inbox, all these things, stop it. 48:28 Yeah. No, we agree with you. I think we're on the same page. 48:30 Yeah, man. Rest in peace, Dolly Parton. 48:33 Oh. 48:33 Dolly Parton passed away. I don't even know Dolly Parton. Ah, come on. We all have moms. We all have mothers. We all have mothers. I want mothers. 48:43 Thanks to our mothers. 48:45 Everywhere, bro. Everywhere. Dolly Parton. 48:50 Global superstar, bro. 48:54 Global superstar. She has such a great heart, eh? Yo, like... Because you know that Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You, it's hers. Originally. And Whitney Houston. So how it came about was it was a hit, obviously. And then it's a David Costner. What's that Costner guy? Kevin Costner. Kevin Costner. Kevin Costner did a movie, The Bodyguard. Over 48. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kevin Costner, Kevin Costner. 49:26 He made The Bodyguard, the movie. And for the soundtrack, he wanted a remake of that. He wanted that song, but with Whitney on it. And then it became the song that it became. Whitney's biggest career song at the time, probably ever. 49:42 And it made... Dolly Parton, 10 million US dollars. 49:48 Because she owned the publishing. It's her song. And by the way, you know, Elvis Presley wanted to also remake the song. But now his team told Dolly Parton that Elvis, any song he gets on, he owns 50% of the publishing. And then Dolly Parton was like, middle finger, because it's my song. You're not going to get 50% of the publishing. And it's a hit already. 50:10 Yeah. 50:10 Anyway, Whitney did the song. Holly Parton made 10 million US dollars. Do you own publishing on Ditka Bank? 50:17 Or yours? Partly. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not alone on the song. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm not alone on the song, bro. You're 50 years old? 50:25 No, not 50. 50:26 Oh, less. 50:27 It's equally with everybody. 50:28 Oh. 50:29 Yeah, no, it's split shares with everyone. Have you got your Samro yet? 50:34 Samro from? The Samro payments? Payments. 50:36 Yes, yes, yes. 50:37 How are they? How much? 50:38 There's like a million of us on the song, man. You know, they're fine. 50:41 But how much? 50:42 I'm not going to tell you. How much does Mac pay you? How much does Mac pay you? How much does Mac pay you? 50:49 Well, I know my earnings from my work. 50:51 I want to know you're urgent from your work. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Put it in. No, man. This is a silent show. 51:04 Silent show. Silent show. But it was healthy. It was healthy. No, it's healthy. It's still healthy. It's still healthy. Nice. 51:15 Hey, and there's a drama with that song. You'll see soon. Yeah? Yeah, there's drama. There's drama with that song. No, no, no, no. It's not even amongst us, the guys. It's back end of your stuff. Anyway. Why can't you just tell us? 51:30 Yeah, why not? 51:32 No, man, it's not up to me to say. 51:33 Break the story. 51:34 Who's it up to? It's up to all of us. 51:39 Break the story. 51:40 No, no, no. 51:42 I'm breaking news. 51:44 Office things. We're dealing with the office. Yeah, so... 51:49 She then took the $10 million because she was rich already, wealthy already. Dolly Parton is Dolly Parton. And then invested the $10 million into a black neighborhood in Nashville. And she called it the house that Whitney built. I think it was like an office park or a business center of some sort. That's amazing, man. Yeah. And like during COVID, when everything was closed down, because she's got like a town, right? 52:15 which she pretty much owns that she's invested in it's got theme parks and she also has an initiative I forgot the name but she sends books to millions of kids in America for parents to read for their kids and she employs 4,000 people and those 4,000 people she kept paying them throughout lockdown when they were not working just from music 52:41 I wish our celebrities can do that, man. 52:42 What a soul. 52:43 What a heart. All they do is just Osars, our celebs. 52:52 Because even Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle, there's a town where he grew up. 52:55 We always invested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 52:58 Similar thing with me. Yeah, like all his money is there. He still stays there. 53:01 Dave Chappelle yeah like it's a town with white people but he's got like he owns it because he's he bought buildings little by little bought like pretty much the entire town now and he employs everybody there but you can't compare to America guys yeah America is something else that kind of man of course look one song 10 million US dollars yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah Convert that to rants. Not even... Only Black Coffee probably has made that kind of money just from, like, music in South Africa. Not a lot of artists. 53:30 And we see what Black is doing. 53:32 Yeah, shout out. 53:32 He just launched... Puzala. 53:36 He just launched... Is it Art Legacy? What's that? I think it's going to be a fund. It's a fund. Oh, wow. That's going to help artists when they hit... 53:49 Oh, it's finished. Thank God. 53:52 Everything is finished. 53:58 Nope. I saw a snippet of him talking about it. 54:00 Why you got shocked every time? 54:07 It's like been 10 years now. 54:08 Come on now. 20 years now. It's a fund that's going to support artists when they need help. 54:15 Not like need help with... 54:18 just like I think it was inspired by El Volvo because you said when El Volvo the thing El Volvo thing happened and now you need like physio a therapist you know with every bottle you know an alcohol bottle there's like a month of shots that it comes with so like a grandeur bottle for example will have 54:38 35 shots. 54:39 Yes, that's how the bar determines how much they're charging per shot. 54:41 With you, it's two shots per bottle, no? 54:44 Must be. 54:45 Yeah. 54:45 Somewhere there. Somewhere there. 54:47 Okay, Pusa, let's see you. 54:49 No, man, I'm on a drink for your entertainment. No, man. 54:52 No, you, no. 54:53 No, I'm not going to finish it, obviously. Come on. 54:55 Why not? 54:57 That's a normal shot. 54:59 Yeah, so... Oh, that's beautiful, man. Launched the fund with Tira and Marilyn as well as part of it. So yeah, that's beautiful. And oh, forgot to mention El Vovo. You know, remember they donated to El Vovo? Yeah. Yeah, so now he took that money and he started... 55:15 toilet business. You know those toilets? Those mobile toilets? That's fine at events, backstage. Yeah, he's founded that now. So he took that money and invested it into a building of mobile toilets. 55:28 But that makes sense because he's been through a lot of shit, man. You know what I mean? 55:31 Yeah, true. And also when you're desperate and the shit wants to come out and the shit is singing... 55:40 You gotta go, you know? 55:42 So, you'll never go around when nature calls. Food, shit business, you'll never go around, dog. Because you gotta eat, you gotta shit, right? You gotta come and it's gotta go out. So, shout out to... 55:53 I think he started that business for himself and he's like, might as well make money. 55:58 Well, it's a business. It's going to be very lucrative near weekend, you know? 56:02 Oh, I love it. Yeah, but yeah, shout out to you. Shout out to you, man. So how does that business work, bro? 56:15 Oh, you rent out the toilets. 56:17 Oh, like the ones at funerals. Funeral events. You rent out toilets. 56:22 Yeah. Bro, it's so crazy. There are so many businesses that you didn't even think of make so much money, bro. Yeah, the boring ones, bro. You understand? The boring businesses. Because that makes money, bro. Yeah, it does. Yeah, yeah. Even the ice business. 56:34 Because you don't want people to be coming into your house to use the toilets. Yes. So it's best. Have the toilet outside. 56:41 And people will use the toilet. It's like the food business. People will eat food. You know, or fruits. People will buy fruits. Whatever. People will buy fruits. 56:50 I agree. I agree. How's your guy's business? The one with the knitting? 56:55 Oh, she says she doesn't have the capacity to make the jerseys. So she just gets capacity for next winter. 57:03 She doesn't have capacity. 57:04 No, people really love those things. I know. They really, and they want to buy them. 57:07 They really want to. There is a demand. So I wanted to slap a soleano and say, yeah. There you go. Winter, you warm. 57:13 You're good. But they really love it. They really. But I'm like, ah, she doesn't have capacity. 57:18 No, I'm aiming for markets. No, I think that's the way I'm going, actually. 57:22 Markets. 57:22 Yeah, markets. 57:23 Markets how? Like where they sell at the market? 57:26 Yes, at the markets. You know, like you have those ones in the market. We're all spending market on Sundays. Yes, yeah, yeah. 57:32 I see. 57:32 How long does one take you? About, if I can really focus, about two to three days. 57:38 So let's spend the whole summer making them because they're going to sell it later. 57:42 No, no, but the aim is whichever market I go to. 57:46 I remember I was drunk and I was like... 57:48 Why did the sound be bad? Because I had 10 people asking, yo, bro, that, yo, Tola. I know, I know. 57:55 Like, there's a demand, Shem. I do know. There's a huge demand. Yeah, there's a huge demand. Tola Smo was roasting me on... And a lot of people were like, no, we love it, we love it. Yeah, it was like, ah, ah, ah. 58:08 Tira took a fence. You know that, right? So he did a video of Tira. 58:15 I think Tira was wearing a beautiful outfit. 58:18 And he had these... 58:28 Gucci sneakers. No, Louis Vuitton. 58:29 Louis Vuitton. 58:30 Orange sneakers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I didn't see the video until I saw him making a video of him saying, Dira, I think he had a call. He was on a call with Dira for like a minute. This is the screenshot on WhatsApp. And then obviously Dira saying, remove that video. I think he was rocking it. 58:50 And he wasn't even saying it's fake. He was just saying... 58:54 He did say it's fake sneakers. Oh, did he? Yeah. Oh, because I remember... Because he sent me the video. 58:59 Can we find the video, man? I haven't seen this video. 59:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he said... And then he said... He said... 59:06 And then, I didn't see the Youngstana one. 59:15 Is there a Youngstana video? Yes, there is one. Because Youngstana responded. 59:21 Yeah, yeah. Youngstana responded. Let me send you the Youngstana one, papi. Is it those 420 TikToks? What word? 59:28 Yeah. No, no, no. It's not those. No, it's not a rant. It's just him taking a clip from, you know, social media and then just making commentary on it. 59:39 Yeah, so I think it's that Yangstana. 59:43 Check your WhatsApp, bro. I think for the Yangstana, go on TikTok and search... Yangstana? Tolismo Yangstana. 59:52 Oh, you did say... 60:22 And it's so light. 60:27 For me, like, he made jokes about me and the jersey. And it's just so light. But Tira has since, like, sent him, like, receipts of him buying Louis Vuitton and said, post that. 60:37 No, but was it receipts of that shoe? 60:40 No, no, no, it's another shoe. I think he went shopping sometime during the weekend. 60:44 For me, why is Tira begging to let's move? 60:47 What's happening? 60:49 Now we're going to cook. 60:52 Now. Oh, thank God. We're all equal. 60:54 I'm going to cook. 61:17 I can't wait for the rose. 61:29 Bro, they fun, yeah, the rose. I'm coming for you, Mungese. 61:37 I sent you the Youngstunner one, yeah? But this is Youngstunner's response. It's not Youngstunner getting cooked. 61:44 Okay. 61:45 But what did he say about Youngstana? Let's also... No, I think... 61:49 He's having fun on the internet. 61:50 Yeah, no, no. Mo is like... He's in charge. 61:53 And I'm like, he's so innocent, man. What did he say? Ghost Lady is right. Give us context. I don't know what he said about Youngstana. But remember, there's a picture now where I think Youngstana was on holiday somewhere. 62:06 And... It was in the water, but holding on to the edge of either a boat or a ski, whatever you call them. And remember, he's got these grills where he's... 62:17 Teeth are black. So it looks like it almost doesn't have teeth. So he looked at certain, yeah, that picture. So people have been cooking him. He looks, oh, you got the video. 62:26 There's the video. 62:27 I've never seen it. Let's hear it. 62:29 I don't know. I don't know. 62:31 I don't know. I don't know. 62:35 I don't know. 62:43 I don't know. 62:55 Oh, come on, man. 63:04 I see there's a special one. Let me see the special one. Yeah, it says. You must play Youngstana's response, man. Hey, Youngstana wasn't having it. 63:10 Yeah, like... It seems innocent. It's innocent, guys. It's not that deep. 63:15 Marubano, tateles, tomes, sagas, fiso. A togi jacket, aluminium foil. 63:26 Oh, man. 63:28 See, I started to spill. 63:58 Just unmuted. Just unmuted. 64:03 Log in, dog. You don't have logins? 64:06 Okay, let me try to download it and send it to you. But like, it's so innocent, man. 64:10 Like, for me, I'm like... What did he say, though, Youngstana? 64:16 Oh, yeah, yeah. It's downloaded now. Hold on. 64:19 But, bro, like, it's so innocent, man. No, but you know these guys are emotional. Yeah. 64:24 But it's the game, bro. I also feel like with D-Rat as well. 64:27 It's not like a tour or saying something personal. Sorry, sorry. 64:30 For D-Rat to also now be there begging him to remove that whole post. Like, it's a bit too much. Can you start again? 64:40 Yeah, yeah. Nigga, tell us more. You went to the podcast and told people that your wife found you. 64:48 Why you about to teach it yourself? And then you go on the internet after you got saved, and then you started talking shit about other people's lives. 64:57 Does that make sense? You can't go on the internet and make fun of people's lives like men. 65:19 They're talking shit about people's lives and you understand. 65:43 Ah, it's not that deep. 65:44 Yeah, it's not that deep, yeah. It's not that deep, yeah. It's honestly just like, yo, bro. 65:53 We can't make fun of each other. Oh, did you see Kanye Ma? She is so hurt, man. 66:04 What's happening? 66:05 What did she do? 66:07 What did she do? 66:11 No, she posted on Insta. What did she post on Insta? 66:14 Oh, Insta. 66:15 Yeah, she says, she says, no, the Insta says, damn, even my boss and co, all you call me, Damn, even my boss and co is against me? Yo, I, it's from Yano Little Rings, dog. Yo, I, Pumagim. I've worked hard, so hard. You guys know nothing, dog. Y'all have no idea what I had to go through on Music Pulse. Well, I'm assuming Beyond the Pulse. 66:39 So to come out and say that, that's just foul. Coming from them? Hey. 66:48 You were misbehaving while I was gone. 66:50 What happened? 67:02 Remember, I didn't know that it was for Yano Lyrics. And I said, based on how she was holding it down, as a podcaster, she's good. She was holding it down on a piano pulse with Chaki and Sfiso here and still holding her own. I gave her a flower. I was just shocked that the podcasting award was for the work she does on Yano Lyrics. 67:25 Yeah, she got Best Piano Award in the country. For Basadi, I mean, Best Podcaster Award in the country. 67:35 Oh, for piano lyrics? 67:37 For the work she does on piano lyrics, yes. 67:40 But it's interview. 67:42 All right. 67:44 Funda now. 67:51 Look, man, everybody must stop being so sensitive, guys. Come on, relax, man. 67:55 Come on! Guys, what you did was wrong. 67:59 What? Who did? 68:01 What? Who did? 68:02 No, if you made her feel like unhappy, it's okay. 68:11 At no point did we discredit her work. 68:14 Mmm... 68:16 Right. 68:16 Okay, yeah. At no point. Yeah, yeah. 68:19 Her work is great on both platforms. Yeah. 68:22 But we just said, how is it that Diana Basadi in women, women in Basadi 8, sounds very lesbian, Basadi in music, how they then say best podcast for work that she's not podcasting on. 68:42 Okay, maybe. 68:43 everybody knows that does Yano lyrics identify as a podcast is that is that the oh it's that whole yeah maybe they identify as a podcast I forgot that angle it's 2026 it's 2026 yes maybe they identify yes I think I missed that thank you so good to have you back and have someone to think Along those lines, yes. 69:13 Anyway, Limpopo Boy is here, guys. Also, don't forget, man. Top December, we're at a Grand West Casino in Cape Town, man. Make sure you get your tickets for Row to 2 Million, Row to 2 Million. It's going to be amazing. But yeah, give it up for Limpopo Boy. 69:28 Daily Fire is a podcast. 69:31 Alright, Panduka, today we've got the man of the moment, Izzy. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Limpopopo. Thanks for coming, man, because we wanted to have you like, I think a week or two weeks back. And then your management told us that mentally we're not okay. Oh, man. 69:56 Wasn't that bad, my dog? Wasn't that bad? 69:57 Ah, my bruh. It's very good, homie. Because I came up with a little scandal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Since I started my brand, I've never come across such things. So this thing affected me in many ways. Because I didn't even know of you. 70:10 Yeah, I didn't even know of you until the video came out. Oh, my bruh, yeah. And I'm like, who's this Limbobo guy? 70:15 Ah, my bruh, you met me many times Limbobo. Sirazi! 70:17 Yeah. You woke up when I drank. 70:21 You may have met him, but you wouldn't have remembered him because people obviously know him from his work, which you're not familiar with. 70:27 Yes, and someone's telling me you're a dancer. 70:38 Yeah, choreographer. Superstar, not just a dancer. Yeah. Like you even get gigs outside of the country. 70:43 Yeah. Wow. Dance choreographer, dance performer, event organizer. 70:49 And then I saw you because we do, there's a series that we do for patrons and members, right? It's a day in the life of one of the hosts from the network. So we're doing a day in the life of Zile and he was in the video. 71:00 Of course, of course. I think it was the Likompo balcony mix or something. 71:03 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which Likompo balcony? Nine? I think the recent one. The recent one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 71:09 You're in the video. 71:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Zile's my boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 71:13 So break us down, man. How's it been, bro? Like, how's it been, man? How crazy has it been, man? Yeah, how's it been the past few weeks? 71:20 But yeah, what happened, happened. Whatever happened to my guy. 71:29 Ish. It wasn't easy, my guy. 71:31 When did that video take place? Like, is it this year? 71:34 Of course. Oh, it's this year. Alright, alright. Yeah, so... 71:38 It happened that day, a video leaked. Oh, that day? Oh, the day the video leaked? 71:44 Earlier on, was the action? Later on. No, no, earlier on was... 71:48 Earlier on. 71:49 Earlier on, yeah, yeah. From when it leaked, obviously. 71:52 Yeah, so... I think it was not that day, Wansar. 38, Southcast. 71:57 Yeah, so I don't know what happened. Even today, I'm still asking myself. 72:02 Who leaked it? I don't know. Even now, I'm still asking myself because what happened after that video, we were on our way to the after party. So after we did it, I don't know what happened. 72:28 Because of everything that I've done, the draft. So we were ready to go to the after party. After that video, we were not doing anything there, bro. Just video, Clarence Richard video from Lecombo Balcony to the hotel that we booked, all of us, Lecombo Balcony. After that video, I don't know what happened with my phone. And then they said, let's get ready, let's get ready, it's fine. 73:01 After, after, after we're getting ready, there's a lot of after-party. And then within 30 minutes, maybe it's not 30 minutes, 20 something minutes. 73:15 My guy, did you see what you posted? Or like a... Could I have a call from Majita outside? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 73:21 Yeah, bro, did you see what you posted? It's fine. 73:24 What are you guys talking about? If you had a phone call, you had a video. 73:30 My TikTok is locked. I'm locked out. So, but TikTok is the same thing. So, earlier on, you record the video. Later on, the video gets posted. On your profile. On the stories. 73:45 And both your phones are on you. 73:55 Yeah. 73:55 It's not like somebody found your phone like for two minutes. Why is it... I don't want to say answer on that because of... 74:07 I've got three phones. And then I don't remember after that video, I went with my phone, go down in the room, go down and so forth. Yeah. So I'm confused or what happened. 74:19 Did anyone know of the video by that time, apart from you and that girl? 74:25 No, I didn't know the girl, but they didn't know you recorded a video. No, but before that, they've been taking videos, taking videos and stuff. 74:41 Even my boys, they do get hold of my phone. If you sometimes want a video and stuff. So, but I don't want to point fingers because I don't know what happened. 74:50 Sounds like it's one of your boys, man. Because I get it. Like when you go to gigs, like when I'm at gigs, one of my boys will, Smoo, PUA, whoever, will record me playing content. And in doing so, you see the camera roll and what was recorded already earlier on. So if it was there, and as you say, your boys have contact, I mean, access to your phone and the camera roll, then it sounds like it's... 75:18 From the TikTok. 75:20 It's like... Because there's no way... If you have access to my TikTok, you can also log out. 75:29 To have access to my TikTok, you need to have access to my phone. 75:34 Yes. Either your logins or your phone. 75:38 Yeah. No. No. 75:41 Password your phone. 75:43 Yeah, password your phone. Because even if you hack that before, if you hack me, you won't get my draft. Of course. 75:51 So, hey Jo, this thing is happening. But yeah, we're busy trying to find out what happened. We're busy with cyber security, understanding, trying to remove everything on social media. Because it doesn't sit well with me every day when I see those things, my guy. 76:07 And the lady, did you meet the lady at the balcony mix or you had known her before? 76:11 That, I met one after COVID. I met one after COVID. I met one after COVID. I met one after COVID. I met one after COVID. And then after that, I met one after COVID. 76:31 So apparently, because now... 76:46 After this incident, what's happening? Lots of heights and stuff. But to be honest, I didn't know. Oh, you didn't know she's married? No, no, I didn't know. Because even me and Masiriso, when we met that night, or even before, we never had a chance to sit down and talk and get to know each other. Once we were first, first, and then that's it. 77:08 I can't go around checking people if they're married or not. 77:13 I can't go around asking you if you're married. And if someone wants to hide the fact that they're married, they're not going to tell you that they're married. 77:20 So some people were like, yo, brah, but you're wrong... Pictures were there on social media. But did you even follow... Did you even follow Matisse before? No. No, no, no. 77:28 No, no, I just found out now. I've never known her, man. 77:31 Yeah, even me. Even me, because I see a lot of things happening. The AI. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because now people think me, personally, I know the guy. Me, I never met the guy. Even wherever he is, he knows that I don't know him. I've never met him. Did he try to call you? Okay, that's... No, no, no, no. I'm just saying people say... People said on social media he was my friend. 77:50 Because they made AI photos. Me standing with him. 77:54 So I don't know the guy. I've never met him. I don't know him. I don't know anything about him. And then when that leaks... Do you speak to Matisse? Do you call her or does she call you? Bruh, I called because I wanted to understand the video. Because we were all shocked. Because we were all shocked. So we went to Lori. They weren't making it. Because my guy, you know, this thing he writes on Saturday. On Sunday... 78:22 I get a call from different people, people that I never thought they would call me, like addressing such things. Of course, of course. So yeah, at some point I felt like, ah, bro, I can't take it anymore. Yeah, yeah. So big shout out to people who called me, big artists that I never thought they would call me, try to guide me, advise you and stuff. Like what artists? 78:42 I can't mention their names. 78:43 It's not a big deal as well. 78:47 I'm trying by all means to avoid mentioning names. 78:56 They supported you. 78:57 Yeah, they supported me. 78:58 They know themselves, you know what I mean? 79:00 So what they've been doing to me, I've been doing it to Matsidi. I've been also advising 123123 because it wasn't easy for me. 79:09 And how is she, man? Because you know, like you said, she's an influencer. I'm sure she was distraught, right? 79:13 I mean, she's married. Yeah. She was definitely distraught. At some point, I don't know. Maybe sometimes, sometimes they're trying to do whatever. Whatever happened, I apologize. It's fine. I take accountability. But yeah, it is what it is. So bro, when you record the video, Is it like for you to watch it later? 79:41 It's a good question, my guy. And I'm going to answer that. You look like you're having fun. No, no, no, no. They're not having time of their lives. 79:50 No, let's not lie. 79:52 It depends. No, I think that one, it depends. But normally, bro, there's a situation where I have to pay a girl $50,000. 80:04 Oh, I see. 80:05 You do it as a defense. 80:07 Yeah, even if I don't even have to show my old mother just to prove that this girl was with me happily so and whatever. 80:12 It was consensual. 80:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 80:15 Also, let me prove, okay. 80:18 For me, for me, because this thing happens twice. So you paid the 50k? Yeah, I paid. 80:41 5-0. Yeah, it was 50K or me behind the bus. Yeah, so I had to choose. Even if we agreed, this is a sadha freak, my guy. That's why I gave a chance. Once. Once, my guy. 80:55 Your head will never take you to jail. 80:57 Yeah, and the Vaseline was there already. 81:00 You were there, you were there. 81:01 My guy, since we brought this one up, my guy, I have nothing to do with Vaseline, my guy. 81:07 I'm telling you. 81:11 And I knew you guys were going to make fun country. Wait, wait, wait. How was it hers? Whose room was it? I remember when it's cold. I'm advanced anyway. 81:38 And then the aftermath, because I read somewhere that you lost a gig in Botswana, I think you're meant to perform or something. 81:44 See, I started seeing posters, cancelled, cancelled. 81:46 Nothing has been cancelled, only gig in Botswana. Gig in Botswana. 81:53 in a dance workshop yeah so they cancelled because of and that gig was sponsored not by the bank was sponsored by the bank in Botswana not me I was not sponsored by that bank And yeah, I've seen some posters. Bruh, you see Limpopo Boy is a brand until to date. I was never sponsored or funded by any brand. 82:20 I see people are saying Adidas. I don't know anything about it. 82:23 Oh, I knew that was bullshit, bro. 82:25 And even my international tour, still they say nothing is cancelled. And whatever happened, it's a lesson, yes, I'm not condoning that. It's a lesson and I've learned. But hey, as much as few past days, I had to be like, you know what, bro, you need to stand up. 82:48 Life goes on, bro. I can't beat myself. 82:53 It's not like I did post that video. For what? I don't have a reason to post that. Already my brain is big. You're going to destroy your brain. 83:05 I had a lot to lose. So, yeah, man. It is what it is. When they started posting that you've lost this endorsement, this and that, I knew a lot of them are lies. But the thing is, people were almost creating those things to celebrate your downfall. How does it make you feel, bro, when you see people almost dancing on your grave? And did it happen with people you knew personally? It's so sad, my guy. 83:33 It's so sad because I played a big role to a lot of upcoming dancers. 83:41 Once I played a big role and I had a lot of kids. 83:46 private dance competition just to give back to the community. I've been doing a lot of things for upcoming dancers. So it's so sad seeing your own people celebrating your downfall. 84:06 So what about the work that I've done? What about the music that I exported? What about the culture? What about the flag that I've been flying? So I was like, it is what it is. South Africa, you know, when... 84:25 Things like this happen. I'm a guy. I saw this coming. I really trust me. I saw this coming because there's someone in Limpop or Johannesburg, whatever. He's a dancer. They want to be wherever I am. 84:39 But rather than a computer, they don't know the proper way to approach, you see, for help and stuff. So there's someone out there who wants to be where I am. So obviously, people wonder why we're celebrating more. Because of... They're doing the same thing. 84:59 And where are we now? Are you still performing? Where are we now in terms of the brand Limpopo Boy? 85:06 My brand is still pushing. Even this weekend, I was in Wydbank. I was performing there. Beautiful. Yeah, and then I've got my international tour still going on. 85:16 October, I'm going to Switzerland for Red Bull. I was selected. 85:22 And then November, I'm going to Ghana. December, rush year. The same show that I posted, it's still going. 85:32 How do you do it, man? Because you've been to so many countries. I see on your TikTok, you've got all these flags. What, you self-fund these things? 85:39 How did you get that started? How does it work? 85:42 Bruh, I think... 85:45 I'm one of South African dancers who took dance serious. Because as much as we know, dance has been underrated in South Africa. And when we grew up, we were told to go to school, blah, blah. No black parents have been supporting talent until they see money. That's a fact. So dance for Namagai, it's a calling. It's something that I got it from my mom. My mom was a dancer. She passed away when I was seven years. Yeah, so... 86:10 And then, when you push your talent back, it's those words that I've been getting at home from all people. They were like, whatever that you're doing, remember your mom is watching you. So this thing, you don't have to do anything. So dance as a hobby or something like that. 86:30 Even though I didn't see this coming already, but it's something that I can push. 86:36 So I got a call from Spain. Spain, they booked me. I put out a flyer and then all European countries reached out. 86:45 Wow, beautiful. 86:46 And then I won an award in Belgium, which no one celebrated that. Yeah, they never celebrated that. I won a big award in Belgium. 86:56 That's when I grew even more. 86:59 Because that's when people started calling me China, Thailand, Australia. 87:09 And what does your team look like? Do you have like a South African team, an international team or one team? 87:14 I have South African team. I have dancers. I have dancers because sometimes I do music. When I perform, sometimes I'll do three songs of mine and then I dance because people know me as a dancer. Got you. So I've got team. When I mean overseas, I'm alone. I'm alone. I do everything. I mean, everything alone. 87:31 And what are the girls saying? Now that they've seen the video, they're like, yo, take me to your room. 87:34 Yeah, you're getting more interest. Yeah, actually. Yeah, man. I'm a girl. 87:41 No, I'm not saying you're rocking, but... But they blow you up, I'm sure, you're in your inbox. Bro, aksalida. 87:50 Exactly. 87:52 Aksalida. Guys, aksalida. They're busy DMing me. They're like, ah, this one, they just want to finish me. Yeah, I know. 88:02 It's almost like that, bro. Yeah, but now I feel like, bro, this is nothing. Of course. Yeah, this is nothing. I'm still alive. I'm still kicking. 88:16 Like you said, you didn't kill anyone. 88:17 And I like the fact that everything is still on. I'm still going. Hey, going back, my guys, now they will just send someone to just ruin me forever. 88:25 For good. 88:28 How many rounds were you in? Because you look tired. 88:29 And I know you guys are not going to believe me. Yeah. 88:43 That time we had video, nothing happened there. 88:46 Whoa! Let me tell you, let me tell you, my guy, I don't have a reason to lie now. You have seen, you have seen. Nothing happened. Let me tell you, because you don't know. 88:59 Why record all of that then? 89:19 I already answered that. I already answered that. You know people who have had sex, even when they're wearing clothes and just chilling. There's a vibe, a connection. You guys, come on, bruh. 89:38 Nothing happened that day. Nothing happened that day. I'm telling you. Look, we weren't there, so we will have to believe you. If I did, I did, because you saw everything. But that day, that moment in your video, nothing happened. So there were other days where things happened. 90:02 Ghost lady, when you see that, when you see that, man, what were you thinking? What was going through your head, ghost lady? 90:07 Obviously shocking, you know, like in the aftermath of it, you know. So obviously now we're just trying to find reasoning on why. And plus, I think I was really saddened when I heard that, you know, you're not doing well emotionally. Whereas guys normally are the ones that are, ah, kishap, you know, I don't care. I did it, I did it. 90:24 Yeah, guys are different. Now I'm not capable of such. I understand. And like I said... 90:31 I don't know. Thanks, guys. I'm laughing now. But this is a sensitive matter for me. So, yeah. 90:37 Even when you arrived, you could see you're not okay. Yeah, you look like you've been crying. 90:41 I saw a video of him outside the first time after that happened. You could tell there that, yeah, no. He's going through this. Yeah, you're not okay. 90:48 You're not okay. Those things are really sharp. It's humiliating, bro. That's not good news. 90:54 It's humiliating, man. 90:55 I just want to ask a question regarding your work, right? Have you done any like choreography of like international musicians? You know, is there like dances that you are behind that we don't know of? 91:07 Music videos, things like that. 91:08 Like have you worked on to that extent? 91:11 There was only performance dance workshops. 91:15 Or performances? Like who have you maybe like... 91:18 No, they booked me to come and perform as Limpopo Boy. Oh, yes. 91:21 So not as maybe you are dancing for a Drake or something? 91:25 No, no, no. Oh, okay. Have you tried getting the tenders, man? Because sometimes I see, like, the psalmers have got a choreographer. 91:31 So means he has all of them. 91:32 Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah. Saras is chasing him. He's owing them. 91:37 19 million. 19 million. 91:40 So, yeah, yeah. You know, World Cup, tournaments. I think that's a good, very lucrative space as well. Have you thought about that? Of course. 91:49 Of course. So... 91:51 But now, you know, I just want to focus on... 91:54 I don't want to work for someone. 91:57 Unless it's a collaboration, yeah. Yeah. But rather than that, I just want to rock as Limpopo Boy as a brand. 92:04 Limpopo Boy, man, thank you so much for your time, man. We appreciate you so much, bro. Yeah, stay strong. You're looking like a champ, dog. 92:09 Yeah, we learn from the mistakes, bro. You know, it's a mistake, man. Like, hey, bro, half the people who are judging you, hey, their things... are also there in their phones, you know what I mean? Safe and hidden away and they act like... And she was equally wrong as well. They act wholeer than thou, then they act holy, eh? 92:25 I'm just saying she was equally wrong as well. So it's like the burden cannot be put on him alone. So she was also wrong for what she did, knowing her situation. 92:35 Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. She was cheating. So, of course, you know, she was also like... 92:38 I see you wearing a Limpopo Boy merch. Is it out available? Can people get it? Yeah. 92:42 Very dope, man. And I'm also rocking Dweba brand as well. So I've got Limpopo Boy and Dweba brands. 92:48 Yeah. Nice. No, keep representing Limpopo, man. Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise for Limpopo Boy! Limpopo Boy! On that note, you are here, man. Podcast is chill. Thank you, Limpopo Boy, man.